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Farmer class

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Riskiye, Dec 2, 2020.

  1. Riskiye

    Riskiye Active Member

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    What are the pros and cons of:
    • Mage Farmer
    • Halberd Farmer
    • Bow Farmer
     
  2. LanHe

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    From my knowledge (not 100% reliable):

    Mage (In general, since there can be many types)
    Pros: low-medium budget is okay, good aoe so works well in areas with high/low mob density
    Cons: Damage isn’t the best, might struggle with high level mobs with low-medium budget
    P.S.... may I suggest dancer farmer or knuckles+md farmer for you to consider?

    Halberd
    Pros: good damage, low-medium budget is okay!
    Cons: lower aoe so only viable in areas with high mob density, can be glassy
    Edit: aoe is good!

    Bow
    Pros: good damage and range (aoe is about the same as halberd), since you increase DEX there is less grazing, medium budget is okay
    Cons: I don’t recommend low budget for this build, not the best in areas with low mob density
     
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  3. Riskiye

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    Oh thanks for this. Also, what the difference between pure md and knux+md?
     
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    The 2nd blast from halberd's dive impact has even more range than MD storm, it has 7m radius compared to storm's 5m~ radius. The only disadvantage of halberd is from high flee mobs that evades a lot
     
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    Knux MD has more damage due to Annihilator skill (crusher) and Conversion skill (magic warrior)
    Resonance (magic warrior) is also good, but it is optional.

    PureMD has MP and CSPD advantage in most of its weapons, it is relatively cheap to build, but it does get overshadowed.
     
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    Mage
    Pros : Can reach up to 15k storm (pure md) stable farmer with less effort farming, one of the fastest farming for 1~2 hit storm. you can use cspd equip w/high cycle to deal high hp using Blast

    Cons : Heavily rely on equip to perform better

    HB
    Pros : almost can 1 hit everything. suitable only for low budget build

    Cons : slowest farmer in the game even with high budget because you can already 1 hit mobs in low equip. and hassle to use because you need to maintain low HP and spamming WCOS. not also viable in high eva mobs

    BOW/BG
    Pros : Best linear farmer in the game (but BG better due to maximizer but need high budget)

    Cons : circular aoe is not good compare to other farmer (arrow rain). but still usable

    Bonus

    Magic Warrior (Sub MD Build)

    Pros : can use powerful ver of storm (can reach up to 20k) and main weapon skill. ex (OHS=Tempest,Bind,Sonic, Knux = EarthBind , Bowgun = Sunrise , Arrow Rain) they are the one common strongest farmer since they can adapt to 1 HIT everything Low~High HP Mobs without much effort

    Cons : Purely High Budget Builf

    Dark Dancer (STAFF STR)
    Pros : can one hit everything using Nature Wonder (For Circular AOE) and Dark Stinger (For Linear AOE). Good Support for Healing in Party

    Cons : Work with Medium Budget But Heavily Rely on Player Level. Dancer is Bad with HB but you can still use Stinger instead
     
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    Haven't tried myself, but BG with sub MD seems to be the all-purpose farmer.
    • Can use storm & finale
    • Can use maximizer
    • Can use sunrise arrow & cf
     
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    flee is related to graze/dodge and is not related to the activation rate of evasion.

    anyways, halberd will have a hard time farming high evasion mobs just like you said.
     
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    Always remember that the fastest is always 1hit not Full LUK.
    If you gonna make a farmer, MAX YOUR DAMAGE STAT FIRST.

    Each class just got their advantages and disadvantages on capability.
    Most of which has already been explained by earlier posts.
    It's just important to state this point.

    Also I have a friend who said Luk Bow is Bad because:
    You need either 100AMPR or High CSPD WCOS to regen MP.
    It is great for Solo but not with party. You can't AMPR if the mobs you're shooting is killed immediately by a pt member. If you use High CSPD gears, you lose damage.
     
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    And the only high evasion mob that's a common farming spot so far is the jellies near Hora, and venomsch during summer event.

    Most players' purpose for making a luk farmer is to earn spina, so buying expensive gears just to make a "luk farmer" is not logical for most players. There was already a thread here 2 years ago I think where someone made a video about testing several different kinds of luk farmers using low budget equips and posted it on youtube, and halberd with dive impact farmed the most mobs. I also saw poi's video about luk bow with sunrise, and the damage is still lower than halberd so I don't think it's better.

    I still think that halberd luk farmer is the most cost effective and efficient farmer for now, dive impact's aoe is even bigger than storm, and it also helps that STR also increases critical damage so a decent level halberd can 1 hit most high level mobs even with 255 sp on luk stat.
     
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    the most logical/efficient farmer build is to use your strongest weapon of your main character (your dps) rather than building to zero using other weapon.

    i even think ktn can also farming along with dagger using flast blast (more eva). just invest more evasion stats in add gear (there some high eva equip) im sure getting 200MP in 20sec is easy to recover
     
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    Thank you guys for the answers. Highly appreciate it.
     
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    I was trying out something - I used a statless character at level 38. Gave it :
    • Duplex Knux 364+C ns
    • Agi10%Atk8%CD20CR21 + Demonic quasar
    • Bear hat + Zarth
    • Machina Ring + Seele + Ruzart
    With skills:
    • Martial Mastery
    • Annihilator
    • Brave Aura
    • Nature's wonders
    Now, because of Annihilator and Brave Aura Graze, my damage fluctuates from 30%.

    Using Unsmited Nature's wonders,
    On Venomsch, I was able to 1 hit all mobs, occassionally one would be 30% damage and survive, but mostly all 1 hit.

    On Blue Bubble, The highest damage was 12k and lowest was 30% of that - 4k ish.

    I plan to test with +S knux and probably adding some other skills/buffs.
    What do you recommend?

    [The goal is to achieve high damage without AGI stat]
     
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    Thanks for correcting me!
     
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    Honestly the annoying Halb. teams insta kicking me from the group farming Bubbles, is for the most reason why. The spawn patterns at blue are difficult to storm all the time. Recently I've found it easier to set settings to close range to gather them up better.

    Haven't tested spawn rates for either reds, but people should honestly move there, notably the reds right above blue in that tight corridor. It's annoying to me that people don't.

    So much easier to 1 kill with Blizzards 5m radius range (storm=4) due to elemental weakness as well.

    But I'm not a youtuber so it'd be a pain in the arse to persuade these people.

    Also still waiting for everyone to realize the strength of a Flast Blast/Shadowstep farmer. .
     
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