4 new skills for Knight Skills tree.

Thats what makes a good tank in toram. And since its not hard anymore NOT to die or lose aggro these days its kinda a must now for tanks to support their dps members with good interuptions, recovery, mp support and well.. chakra.

 

"There is no way u can change another person's opinion if it was already fixed"

Thats what u actually can do by arguing /discussing

 

Oh dear.


I was referring to the skill in its entirety.

If you see no disadvantage to it then feel free to take it.

Just don't complain when a good tank simply uses guardian and goes along their day with no problem.

 

When i complain at all its when i die while tank is dead or lost aggro for longer time. Everything else is my own fault. Still good to have chakra buff rather than fkin gloria lmao

 

Who even uses gloria though?
I think people know how bad the diminishing of def/mdef effectiveness is after 250. Having the buff tripling the def/mdef actually doesn't provide that much bonus.

And about this, well... Idk. Assuming that the rest of the party can evade all attacks, they'd be able to maintain the chakra buff until the end of its duration, and rendering the damage reduction useless. In that case only the ampr and mp recovery effect are useful for them.
Knux bonus is doubling the mp recovery and 10s longer duration.
Let's say you only recast it when the buff duration on other members is running out. In that case, knux have a little bit of advantage compared to other weapons at casting it. 10s longer duration means you can recast less frequent, aka less harmful to your aggro gaining.. The difference in mp recovery upon cast is kinda a little less impactful though, since their ampr would have more or less covered that. It's 50 vs 100 which is, well, 1 auto attack difference in general case.
But generally speaking, I'd say other weapons can still utilize chakra just fine. It's just that knux can have it a little bit better.
It's, in a way, like when a certain other guy said about warcry being similar, as every weapons can use it, just that ohs has 3 times the duration, while ths gives a 1.5 times better buff.
Well, using chakra as a tank will still mostly benefit your party members only anyway, since a tank gets hit all the time

 

As I said, given that you just ignored my post in entirety.

If you think it's worth it then feel free. Just know that any tank with guardian, any mage with gloria (yes it is objectively better for multiple hits), any dps with evasive skill, any build with range, any build with resistance, stone barrier and fractional damage outclasses you.

reference

 

I did not ignore ur posts they just dont make much sense like this one as well. What are u trying to tell me bro. Ur first reply was completely off topic u were just shifting from knux tank to support class. U started trying to tell me something about dps user evasion class and dps classes combo suggestion for ampr? Not to mention ur false information about quick draw saying its activation rate is 15% while its 30%. Also i didnt quite get ur last reply with outclassing or something?
Not even fronting you here, just saying that i could give a reply to ur wierd reply in the first comment which was just way off topic.

 

Yes ur right it benifits ur party members only and not tank itself, im aware of thats why im using it. Its not huge of a buff i agree but its not useless either. Yes most gsw user dont even get hit in a fight but if they do, they might even survive it if its just a slash or something where 50% dmg reduction can help out a bit. Well in the end its up to everyone how they build and play their class.
But like i said in my very first comment, its just kinda weird how almost noone uses chakra giving its just 10sp to get.

 

Actually that's not false info. Not everyone maxes that skill, thus leaving it at only 15% activation rate. Either those players don't bother maxing it, or their builds restrict them from maxing it.

Most late game, high level, or high diff bosses have attacks that deal very high damage, sometimes to the point of being able to kill a buffed no-gsw player. Beside, I don't think there would be many dps that has high enough HP to even withstand their "weakest" attack. But oh well...
And actually there are still people who uses chakra. Just not that popular, giving that it has base cast time of 3s which can be lethal on use if not timed carefully. Many people deemed it as not worth using with that as one reason. Except support builds with 10k aspd & cspd that can instant cast almost anything at maximum motion speed. Thanks god that at least it's affected by cspd stat.

 

Quick draw lv5 = 15%
Quick Draw lv10 = 30%

Outclass Meaning

Talks about off-topic, also you: Your "On Topic Post"

Are you perhaps in need of aid of Toram's skills? You can check the coryn club for info.

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Chakra takes a minimum of 11sp, 20 if maxed. 30 if going for full Knux effectiveness.
GSW users do get hit if using long combo or if on a red zone and are mind combo

Everything else has been referenced, here.

 

U cannot just link some shit to try to hide ur meaningless comments bro
Done talking with you have a nice day

 

Guess ur just right with ppl thinking its not worth using it. Which is sad.

 

That's not gonna happen if it is close minded person or an extremist. That's why I say the word "fixed". Those person with fixed idea/opinion would not change their mind from a simple discussion. Based on how rudely they act. I can't even say it as a proper argument/discussion.

 

Since my point is relevant, others aren't complaining, but you along with 2 other or 3 are complaining, so don't assume them to be 99% of entire toram player.
That's just pathetic.

The fact that you made such a bold assumption of 99% of entire player of toram, already shows how insecure you are about your opinions and you assumed such a large number of players backing you, when in reality they aren't, what a total delusional person.

 

Yeah talking to you ForstHydra97 and others 2 or 3 like minded like you, who you consider as "99%" of toram players.
There is reason why there aren't much players in toram forums nowadays, because people like you are biased and total hypocrites, with your nonsense informations.

Other people are intelligent enough to understand that so that's why they have stopped appearing in toram forum.
Because they know whole bunch of nonsense going on here, and they got no time for your baised informations.
Even I stopped for a while. Lol

 

"no personal attacks here"
*proceeds to dish out personal attacks while going off-topic from the off-topic*

can we finally lock this thread?
@kariin

 

Yeah lock this thread fast, don't need more biased and hypocritical informations spreading around like a virus.

Thank you kariin.

 

I guess either you don't know about the concept of "exaggeration", or I was just phrasing my thought in the wrong way.

I'm not even doing any personal attack though. Which part of my words sounds like personal attack?
Instead, your words sounds more like it than mine.
It's weird how you can assume things like that.
I was literally trying to have a proper conversation, without insulting or cursing or anything, not even mocking like what you did. Almost 100% polite & analytical words only.
Yet you still behave like that.

I don't think I've ever said I thought chakra is trash. It feels like you're purposely trying to understand my words in the wrong way, or maybe it was my phrasing that is misunderstanding.
And I think I've also said very clearly that everything has its own pros and cons.

 

I'm not assuming that to be 99% of entire toram player like you assumed, though.
As i said above, either you don't know about the concept of "exaggeration", or I was just phrasing my thought in the wrong way.
On the other hand, I feel like you're making way more assumptions than I did. Idk if any of them are baseless, though.