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24 March 2021 Update

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by The Brahmnic Boy, Mar 23, 2022.

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  1. The Lost One

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    if annihilator 50% watk buff stack with energy control 50% watk buff but the weapon atk buff is capped at +50%, is that mean it's better to not putting skill point on annihilator since it reduce stability and reduce ailment chance?
     
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    Yeah basically energy control made annihilator useless.
    But annihilator is instant buff, while energy control isn't and always requires a mob to work.
    I think buff time is 2 mins.

    If you don't have aggro or mob isn't using much of an aoe skill or mob misses hits on you because of agi=high evasion, then time will be wasted trying to get dmg buff from energy control, and will result in dps loss.
    Also it will make it difficult to use brave aura buff.
     
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    both useful
    energy control gud for semi or anni for being glass but for me energy control do better job cuz your not restricted doing ailments and cc so glass kn kinda useless build now over semi (especially this class is agi main since you dont really need gsw which kinda stupid build in the first place)
     
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    Without gsw you cannot simply reach 50% motion speed.
    Based on how energy control works, it doesn't allow usage of gsw.

    Everyone want to be fast, it's more fun that way.
     
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    you only need atleast 40% mspd cuz you have rush already. also its easiest to max motion kn cuz it has highest aspd weapon growth and many op aspd% stuffs exist without much sacrificing dmg stuffs (something wrong with you if you cant raise mspd without gsw in kn build)
     
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    @Azin. Did this before it was easy. Now it is more easy.

    You don't even have to sacrifice a lot of damage, either. DX knux already give 100% ASPD, and Light armour gives 50%

    If you use Gordo (Wandering Wheel Upgrade), you get 80% ASPD and 7% ATK too.

    I think with Quick Aura you can already reach 8200 ASPD, which is good enough to reach 10k ASPD with Rush bonus.

    If you are using Ferocious Beast Claws, then the damage increase due to its wATK and stats is enough to replace your additional gear with Love letter Hat, which gives AGI, ASPD 64% and ASPD 320.
     
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    Both has their own merit & demerit. Annihilator has much longer duration (10 minutes) and give MP cost halving effect to Breathwork at lv10 (if you ever use it, though), but reduces stability and ailment chance (the latter could still benefit some people). On the other hand, Energy Control gives better stability and almost no downside, aside from the much-shorter duration (which is shown in the link i shared above no need to guess if u read) and the risk of getting annoying ailment on yourself upon parrying hits.

    And yeah, considering that main knuckle is AGI-based build, and even having the "highest" AGI-based aspd growth of all weapons (only second to bare hand), it would be weird if you still need gsw to reach cap motion speed. I can already reached 7.5k aspd with just DX knux, day sakura charmstone, light armor, quick aura and 2 passives. That's not even including motion speed or aspd bonuses from any sources other than those yet (such as Rush, potion, xtals,...).
    For non-DX, though, you'll need those "other sources". 100% aspd is not small after all.
     
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    and, the thing "Stats Calculation Added to elemental dmg (only magic dmg, depends on int)" how does it work? is it like, using fire element magic skill do 50%(250 int) more damage to earth monsters?
     
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    Probably because it's kinda expensive to build and barely people use mages.
     
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    that's a small buff for mage. but still change nothing against neutral monster.
     
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    Are there any differences between lvl1 and lvl10 for chronos shift and rapid charge?
     
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    EDIT: PLS IGNORE THIS.
     
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    i think the damage increase only when your magic attack element are strong against monster element. but I still don't understand how ninja skill works that, is it fixed to fire element or weapon element, or asobimo forgot the existence of ninja skill.
     
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    [​IMG] July 2022 Edit: Nevermind, it definitely is affected by the elemental damage increase. My Scroll attack was actually too low to compare. When I got a 300+ Atttack Scroll, It became close again.
     
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