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what is a better partner for a mage for a two man party.?

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Mikebansil, Dec 30, 2015.

  1. Mikebansil

    Mikebansil Member

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    A swordsman or brawler?
     
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    BlahBlahBlackSheep Well-Known Member

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    If it's against a boss like Boss Roga, then I feel a brawler would be better as they can at least hold it in place with better for the mage to Storm. But I think it's mostly situational (whether a brawler or a swordsman would make a better partner in pairs).
     
  3. h0tcak3s

    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    melee players, both are actually quite good. if you would like DPS, then sword. but for stuns, tumbles and boss control, then brawlers.
     
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    As long as it it a character with a lot of normal attacks and physical skills to affect damage drop-off and can survive for a decent amount of time, it doesn't matter who your partner is.

    2H, 1H, Brawler, DW, 1H tank, etc.
     
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    This really depends one what you want to farm, but like @h0tcak3s said swordies are a bit better for DPS while Brawler can Stun and Tumble. You can really party up with any class. ( Not a healer though. That makes you do all the work while healer just heals hahaha)
     
  6. Azad

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    For me i rather choose swordies cause they dps,it can use hard hit to make flinch.Brawler is good too but im not much pt a stunner class
     
  7. Yzael

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    Anything that can make sure you never get the aggro through out the entire fight. Just make sure to let the swordsman/brawler to get a 5 second hit advantage so that you won't steal aggro with your huge mana bar combo. If not, they need to get provoke/rage sword(for swordsman)/aggro items.
     
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    Do you guys know what DPS means? It means damage per second.
    Which means calling swordie for dps and not brawler is wrong term.

    @h0tcak3s @RPG_Neko @Azad
     
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    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    yes i am aware of the literal meaning of a DPS, but for this context, DPS means a player who inflicts high damage.
    brawler damages cannot compare to a swordie, hence why i used the word DPS.
    i did mention the word "melee", which has the literal meaning of close combat damage that encompasses both classes.
    hope that clears it up.
     
  10. Azad

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    Like cakes said,dps is inflicts high damage.So swordie make greater dmge than brawler for melee and brawler very good for stun monster.But for range attack dps mage and gunner are almost the same strong
     
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    What those 2 said hahaha
     
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    @h0tcak3s

    Yes, but now that brawler got lv70 skills, they can hit high as dw.

    My brawler with triplekick did well enough with a 45k total.
     
  13. Saphos

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    A properly built 1h will win this debate for sure, A lot of 1h out there focus on the DPS race and I seldom see 1h use Rage sword anymore. When a Mage partners with Brawler, if Brawker loses aggro, it's a wild goose chase until brawler regains aggro, or until party wipe. With a properly built 1h, Rage sword will ensure that the aggro shifts.
     
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    I beg to differ. You can be any build any class as long as you have Provoke and enough Mana you wouldn't lose the aggro at all. So losing aggro is out of the question here.
     
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    Then what would a Mage look for in terms of partnership?

    OP was looking for a comparison between a swordsman or a brawler, so the comparison is between a swordsman and a brawler.

    If OP was not looking for an aggro holder but someone to offer sympathy after he got KO'ed, then swordsman and brawler will do about just as well.

    If you want to compare a Rage sword swordsman with a Provoke Brawler, then it comes down to survivability, which is build specific, not class specific.

    I'm missing the point here.
     
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    You were saying if a Brawler lose aggro it'll be a wild chase, that is not the case. You'll never lose aggro with Provoke when used right, the same with Rage Blade but most PUGS never use them or don't even know how aggro works which is why people kept on encountering PUGS that shouted he is a tanker but all he do is doing 0 damage while spamming Hard Hit and not getting any aggro. I'll only give advantage to Brawler because there's a build for it to be meaty while having 100% hit rate and the fact that knuckles hit twice per hit will make Mana not an issue at all. Not to forget you'll have Flinch/Tumble/Stun in your core build which means you can spend lots of point on other stuff. As for OP choice, it doesn't really matter swordsman/brawler as a tank as long as he have Provoke/Rage Blade.
     
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    And preferably a virtually unlimited supply of Revitas.

    Yes, it does come down to build-specific and not class-specific now. As a sword can also do Hard hit > Shield Bash > Rage sword > Spiral Air. They cannot tumble, but mages have Impact for that.

    It comes down to builds and play style so it's hard. While one can argue 1h miss less with dex, the other can argue brawlers get hit less with agi. It's a matter of preference and opinion.
     
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    With Drills you don't even need agi. You can be full vit np.
     
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    As a mage for most of my time playing toram, I'm just gonna go with competent brawler on a 2man boss farming pt. I'll take on all the hate if I have to, so long as we secure more drops.

    However, if we are talking about One person doing a Two-man Party, and one is a mage, I want a swordsman as the second guy on the team. Rage Sword, Provoke, Lots of Revitas, and just keep on tanking/breaking for my mage, is all the swordy will ever need and do. xD
     

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