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Refinement and LUK B>A, A>S.

Discussion in 'Production Class' started by SAM., May 3, 2020.

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  1. SAM.

    SAM. Well-Known Member

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    Does the refinement skill have to be lvl 10? It would make sense to need only lvl 1 refine, as the rates should still be at a minimum 1%. However, consuming 3 stacks of degrade without a success, I'm starting to doubt myself.
     
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    Then fill entire line, you'll definitely have success xD
     
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    If your luck says no, then no. It's a gamble. You can even refine to +S without fail on first attempt. Sometimes even consecutive +S. 1% doesn't mean it will get triggered 1 out of 100 times.
     
  5. Zufeng

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    Just put lvl1 refine, i got my +S only with lvl1 ref
    3 lvl10 refine skill won't make any difference, just use those sp on other skill
     
  6. kariin

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    3 stks is fine...try 10 stks T.T
     
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    I used about 13 stack anti degrade to refine 1 slot lightning flame staff to +S ... It got 4 time +A but the previous three degraded. Once it degrade to +9...
    Once I spent around 10 stack anti degrade to refine a 4th anniv bow no slot, 5 time it reach +A but all degraded then I sold the cursed bow at +C ...
     
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    sad refine laifu. the 10 stks i used was on a ns gear T.T super cursed...it did however get to S though, but i have given up on other ns refines that took over 10 stks of anti T.T
     
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    I think 4stks is the most I ever spent just to get my first A ns. I've dropped from A to less than 9 4 times in a row all within the first 4 anvil hits. I've also gone from B to S in 10 anvil hits.
    You can try using mithril ore, refine on your land and maybe not refine within a week after a maintenance. You could try refining two items at once. When you get a success, switch to other item. Log out and back in or wait until the next day to continue after fails. However, these things are probably more psychological than functional. The main thing to soften the blow from RNG is to have a large spina reserve.
     
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    What lvl of refining you need for +S what amount of LUK you need?
     
  11. RyeUshio

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    For a necromancer class like you, you need level 1 refinement skill and 255 LUK for +B to +S. ^_^
     
  12. GetterDone

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    Well character has lvl 4 refine skill what you need to improve success rate since all refine skills are at max Luk already 255 how about maxing out anvil skills will that improve the success rate
     
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    You only need 1 skill point for refinement if its a LUK refiner, and max refinement skills if its a TEC refiner.

    The more you try to refine it, is the more you're increasing the success rate, since its accumulating points. From your starting 1% success rate, another 150points brings it to 2% success rate, at 300points its at 3%, 450points 4%, and so on.

    Also, if your guild already maxed 2 refinement buff, that can help with your refining. ^_^
     
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    What about anvil ?
     
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    Would be a waste of skill points. ^_^
     
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    What about refine pts.? Whats number is needed for 100% refined for max on a weapon?
     
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    Idk with your personal luck, but I myself can refine to +S from 1(less than 150 refine pts) to 5%(600) success rate. ^_^
     

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