Can you help me guys make out of here? I'm not doing anything wrong!

That's the fake one.

 

Codes contains ingame items, so how come it is considered as RMT??? Youre selling it for ingame currency..

Post it here then

 

Because these codes weren't meant to be traded or an item of solicitation. If they were, Asobimo would have just made avatar items tradable. It is most likely because you are profiting from an item or receiving in-game currency for an item that it not supposed to be traded or sold.

 

So how about those ppl who registered alot of emails for pre reg and gotcha????

The name implies!!! RMT = REAL MONEY TRADING!!! So how can you say that selling it for spina is considered as RMT!! Asobimo should have a mod here so we can ask them and stop those crackhead for making his/her own definition of RMT.

So how about the guide book code??? Is it considered as RMT?

 

this forum is independent not from asobimo, so the mod/administrator not from asobimo staff, they just volunteer from players, the crackhead famous will be hear in this forum even he/she is crap hahaha

 

Yeah. It could fall on a different rule but rmt. Its dumb to call it rmt when there's no real money involved.

 

Hahahaha u got my point bro!! *high five*

 

Then post the screenshot here that selling it for in game currency is illegal!!

 

It is the closest thing to the any rule stated in the Toram TOS. Also, thought it may not technically qualify as "Real Money Trading" it isn't that difficult to see its relation to real money trading as they are both coming to the same conclusion, which is: Players gaining in-game currency from the result of the trade of an item that IS NOT meant to be traded. It is being traded through means that aren't facilitated from the game.

Firstly, you need to chill.
Also, I don't see how people registering a lot of emails for codes infringes any part of the Toram TOS.
Also, are you calling me a crackhead? These forums are independently owned, I'm making an educated guess based on the information provided which is more than what you are doing. Refer to my comment above directed at Knickoy.

It is common sense. All I know is there are a whole heap of players being banned for a common underlying factor, believe what you want, and play the game what you want. If you get banned, don't cry.

 

tbh its not for you, its to someone who reported player buying albus even though he the crackhead buy albus and cape from others player too

 

Hahahah bro can you back read??? Did i call you a crack head??? I didnt give a name!!

And btw how about BUYING/SELLING guide book codes??? Is it considered as Rmt too?? Since u need REAL WORLD CURRENCY to buy it..

 

They should have automatically added those items in the account instead of Codes.

 

Like what i said earlier, Real money isnt involved by selling codes for spina!! is that a threat?? XD

 

Yup, thats a better idea xD. If its illegal of selling it they shouldve just added it in your account. XD

 

It came as a code. Means it can be used by any account, but will be account bound. The fact that the code can be passed on means it is tradable. If its not meant to be traded, they could've made it like the items are sent automatically once the account is created, but they didn't. Famous people assuming things does not make it real.

Selling codes, or cash shop items, or in game currency for real money is clearly an RMT. But selling anything you got from the publisher, be it a code or cash shop items, is NOT RMT.

 

I agree bro

 

Going by that logic, non-tradable avatar items would suggest that avatar items and codes should not be tradable. Furthermore, your assumptions are just the same as mine, assumptions, I have not said that anything I've said is fact. Until Asobimo release their official statements, all our arguments are merely speculation. Your comments have no more of a validity than mine.

Also, actions suggest Asobimo promotes transparent trading, you can see this by their change to the trade of appearances. Why would they allow or promote players to trade an item that isn't facilitated by the trading system?

 

Damn my hell! Thought that Isabella was a spammer of those that go against some1 because he was able to refine a lot. Sorry for yesterday, if you see this isabella, though that he had another account. Just got tricked.
But in theory: refine service to crafted weapons is permited, if not, why they let selling refined things? I know well bcoz I sell whirlwinds refined to +4

 

Many games allows packs to be sold by in game currency. Packs that can only be bought on the website. Packs that onced opened, cannot be traded any longer. It is actually similar to asobimo codes. Hence, as long as it is not a transaction outside asobimo, its not RMT.

Like what i have said earlier, it could fall on a different case, but it is clearly not RMT. The meaning of it says it all.
Being it the closest thing doesnt make it that thing. My stand is when there's no real money involed, any rules regarding REAL MONEY TRADE are never violated.

 

Yes, and the reason for my argument is that members of this community that I trust have been given Lv.4 penalties who claim that they have not performed any form of RWT transactions, however, when contacting the Asobimo customer-service they state that they have been penalised for RWT. Hence, I've come to the assumption that Asobimo MAY be using RWT as a branch term. Although RWT may be a generally universally understood term, it is possible that Asobimo may have a different perspective, definition or understanding of it. My arguments have not been to redefine the terms of RWT but to see how they may be relatable to the reason that is most likely why players have been getting penalised.