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Mini's Stun-Gun Build (Gun/Shield) Balanced Tank/DPS

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by Gummy101, May 8, 2017.

  1. Gummy101

    Gummy101 Well-Known Member

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    Updates:
    Added Girlish Aggro Combo Set
    Added options on Agile Boss Combo Set
     
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    Gummy101 Well-Known Member

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    Yep yepp. Killing two birds with one stone :)
    Mm, the range penalty is only for normal attack right?
     
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    yep. thats why im loving it now. since i usually tank face to face . with pdef on hand = happy bago:)
     
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    Owowow, face-to-face tanking.. so intimate and brave :confused:. Altough our build both use gun/shield, it seems that the gamplay will be vastly different. I had just finished adding Girlish Aggro Combo Set, which is full of long-range skill combos :confused:.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Assassin arm would be better for boss that needs high evasion for tanking like ecb or bkod but for boss like jade or zolban brigandine npc much better. Theres no single armor best for every boss tbh.

    Guard strike gets more power from refine so you should try refining your shield, I was able to do 2k crit damage with a lvl1 char str 1h. But to be honest I never tried with a full dex char so I say pass on it unless someone or I myself try it on its full power.

    About twilight dress the -500aspd will indeed hurt but the cspd and mp can allow you to prorate using magic skills, have you ever considered using javelin and lance to prorate physical classes in your party? I am working on a magic tank staff+shield that will be able to do that. Also its light/dark resistance is priceless if you try them at bosses like empress, sg or the current hanami ultimate bosses.

    Also about aspd in general did you know revolver has -100% aspd? :p
    For normal bosses your regular set of gears will work out just fine but for nightmare bosses or very tough event bosses you will have to sacrifice some dps gears to equip gears with defensive stats instead. E.g. critical from revolver, resistance from brigandine.
    But if you still prefer prorating by aspd thats fine as well then you will have to be careful not to get hit at all and keep your combos short.

    Snipe penalty is -25% of total critical rate which means without any crit gears/stat you can still have 18% chance to critical on snipe.
     
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    Dex or total ATK stat did nothing on guard strike damage as far as I had tested :confused:. And yea, I also had watched youtube videos about someone guard striking those multiple ECB attacks.. But, with only 1-2k damage, i guess ill pass. My gunfu builds lack SP severely..

    Well yep. But -100%ASPD will only means that the char will got 0 ASPD. Coupled with heavy armor, on a non-agi char, then the ASPD would only be -50. I think we can counter that using giga speed potion + quick aura lvl 6..
    But, with twilight dress, then the total ASPD coupled with heavy armor will be -450.. Which is helpless for proration.. Brigadine is fine, but twilight dress is a no no :confused:
    Mm, yea, i think its viable to prorate magic,, but it will also hurts those staff user :confused:.

    -25% penalty is quite a lot o.o
    It means that on 70-80 crit, my snipe will got around only half of its critical chances o.o
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    For some bosses you would even want to change to light armor and gain more evasion instead of guard, me myself can gain 1k aspd on light version twilight dress by using giga speed :)

    I would suggest that once you have capped try fighting some bosses on nightmare mode to experience. Rest if you want any help or suggestion I am here ^^
     
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    Okiii, thank you soo much mayaaam ^~^

    Updates:
    Added Description on all of the Combo Lists
    Added Option on Girlish Aggro Combo Set
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I like those descriptions you added to your combos XD
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Also one more I wanna point out after watching the video.
    Guardian's aggro increases very quickly by lvling it up and it generate more aggro the closer you stand to the boss.
    I did a test way back a lvl10 guardian when spammed can outaggro a +90% aggro generator even if you have +0% aggro for a boss that doesnt move much.
    Though you wanna put it at lvl3-5 if you dont want the atk reduction by your party members, try it on a lvl1 char and see what range will be the best for you ^^
     
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    I see I see. I think I'll update the skill list again, thanks so much mayam :D:rolleyes:
     
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    Updates:
    Adding Green (optional SP) on Smoke Dust.
    Changing Girlish Aggro Combo to incorporates more chance to do blind debuff.

    From
    Assault Attack --> Shell break (save) --> Smash (swift) --> Impact (swift)
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    Assault Attack --> Smoke dust (save) --> Shell break (swift) --> Impact (swift)

    Altough with the gear in this build only has 88% critical rate at max, and -25% critical snipe, with blind status ailments, snipe will be ensured to hit the target.
     
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    Updates:
    Adding Green (optional SP) on Smoke Dust.
    Changing Girlish Aggro Combo to incorporates more chance to do blind debuff.

    From
    Assault Attack --> Shell break (save) --> Smash (swift) --> Impact (swift)
    into
    Assault Attack --> Smoke dust (save) --> Shell break (swift) --> Impact (swift)

    Altough with the gear in this build only has 88% critical rate at max, and -25% critical snipe, with blind status ailments, snipe will be ensured to hit the target.
    Will test the reliability of Smoke Dust after Hanami Maintenance
     
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    Bump.
    Updates:
    - Changing SP from sanctuary to Pdef due to the nature of sanctuary
    - Uploaded video at Lv Cap 125^^
     
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    cool how precaria inspired a new generation to copy his guide templates
     
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    Hmm nice twist and cool to see experimental build on some class. But in my opinion, DPs class should focus mainly on pushing to max their DPs output to their highest potential. Coz on normal and some hard modes many might agree, that tanks are not necessary. A party's best offense be it's best defense. The defensive stats for DPs like evasion, flee, guard rate/power just be a bonus. Just my opinion tho

    Edit: I just wanted to add too that in game, dw and spear can be a decent tank on normal mode without compromising their dps output. And we got pure knucks and tanks as well. Same goes with mages, class that can have a full magic combo that will help the party's DPs physical types members to achieve their max DMG potential by using magic to prorate the members. I think it's nice to stick on the roles that are expected from our class. Unless you want and it's fine to do a full reset in the future and re-farm/re-stat/re-xtals/re-refine all gears.
     
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    Tried this at level 90+ with a skill variation (went the wrong tree for a few levels before realising)
    But the potential is there, damage is not fantastic and very gear dependent. However the tanking ability is real and i was able to take aggro on event Empress without most of my shield skills, mostly only shield toss (never levelled combo enough yet).

    Loaned a set of CCC gear from @heki and tested it out, probably not meant to be a damage dealing build at all but definitely works to solo content and farm. Attack speed is fairly slow despite having a TWW, not much for proration uses. I will continue this to level cap and attempt to build it for support with Gloria perhaps in exchange for armor mastery.

    Cheers mate!
     

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