STATS in sub weapon

What are the stats that can be used from sub weapon when activating certain attack skills?

 

You can see some infos here : http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/ultimate-class-guide.26255/

 

He doesn't specify anything, but thanks for replying

 

Shield: In normal circumstances all stats apply to everything and the Shield's DEF is added to your base DEF; if it has "With Bowguns" or something similar on it, the stat below only apply if you have the specified weapon on main hand; Shields have an innate ASPD -50% just from equipping one (hence the Shield Mastery); Shield's Refine is the same as refining your armor or your additional gear
Dagger: In normal circumstances all stats except the Dagger's ATK stat apply to everything; if it has "With Bowguns" or something similar on it, the stat below only apply if you have the specified weapon on main hand; some Dagger Skills use the Dagger's ATK stat for damage calculations
Arrow: In normal circumstances, all stats except the Arrow's ATK, the Stability stats and the element apply to everything; if it has an element and you have a Bow or Bowgun equipped, the element of the Arrow is applied, overriding the Bow/Bowgun's element; if it has "With Bows", "With Bowguns" or something similar on it, the stat below only apply if you have the specified weapon on main hand; if you have a Bowgun equipped, half the ATK stat of the Arrow is added to your base ATK, and half the Stability stat of the Arrow is added to your Stability; if you have a Bow equipped, the ATK stat of the Arrow is added to your base ATK, and the Stability stat of the Arrow is added to your Stability; Arrows have an innate DEF and MDEF -25% from equipping one
1H: Only the ATK stat, the Stability stat and the element are used; this part is complex to explain right now so I'll just leave this here: http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...-guide-to-be-the-best-kirito-i-mean-dw.32950/
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Knuckle, Magic Device and Katana: None of the stats apply, but the skills that have a bonus effect with those specific weapons gain said effects (the only exception being Magic Device or Knuckle if you have a Staff equip, in which case the Staff effects override the Magic Device effects on Magic Skills and Holy Light, and will override the Knuckle effects on Holy Fist). Knuckle has an innate MATK -15% from equipping them on sub, and Magic Device have an innate ATK -15% from equipping them on sub.
EDIT FOR ARROW EFFECT MY BAD

 

So with the katana, does the stability and the physical pierce applies only during katana skills?

 

No. NONE of the stats apply. You just get the Katana specific boosts to passives (such as the higher Crit Rate buff, doubled duration and no Crit Damage penalty from Meikyo for example, but not the ATK% and Weapon ATK% from Bushido)

 

i specified EVERYTHING, you just didn't read it

 

What I mean in not specify are the specific stats that will be used during the usage of a katana skill if there is 1 or none, the description is broad for me so I got confuse XD

 

Also, I notice that when I equip katana in sub hand together with bow, there is a small minus to my atk, is that normal?

 

Do you have the Two-Handed passive? If you went from Bow only to Bow + Katana, the Two-Handed passive would deactivate, lowering your Weapon ATK (and thus, as a byproduct, your ATK).

 

Well bowtana will be more fun when shot skills(tier4) is released. As in, spam close range, then go long range, do the burn+deploy clone then do anything else you fancy. With 7mp save tag, shadow clone ampr and aggro diversion anybody can make a "tanuki" build.

 

OH, yeah, I remember now, thanks!

 

That is what I am doing right now, using zettai as a means of survivability while snipe and blind shot as an aggro builder

 

stats of the katana do not apply, but you get the weapon bonus on skills.
can't get more clear than this.

arrows add their atk to the bow, so your total atk is a little lower when you remove the arrow.
and the "both hands" skill only takes effect when sub weapon is empty.

=(^.^)=

 

Does the attack of the katana (the base weapon atk) applies when using it in skills? Are the skills of a sub katana affected also by its own base stability?

 

Nope and Nope. They base it on you main weapon.

Also this is the 3rd time this is said: Only the Katana bonus works when using katana skills on katana sub.


That Atk and Stability you're talking about only applies on One Handed Sword for Dual Weilders.

 

Welp, I tried using a 11 atk mononofu in sub hand and my zettai goes to 3k(the additional hit) while i used my 53 atk mononofu and it goes up to 4k-5k (65% stability from main and 5% from additional equipment) also, refining helps in increasing the damage.. though this is what I saw when I find it out, sorry if I am not that impressed or convinced with some shallow answer.( answers from the description ingame because it doesn't answer some of the questions known to non-mainstream builders)

 

You don't believe what the data miners say? Those guys who digs inside the code to check some of the client side specifics of the game.

Namely @TheXIIIthGuy

65% stability...... And you're surprised about the jump from 3k to 5k....... Uhhhh that's within the range of your stability......

 

Well I don't really say that I don't believe them since I use most of their data mined infos, only that the way I find this things out is somewhat confusing to me at first, well thanks for replying though ^^

 

how about bow + elemental katana ?
katana (sub wpn) fire element bow natural... does bow become fire element ?