Black knight vs Pillar Golem

ok I will now give up. But please, let yourself be enlightened, it will help you. I will give up for now on helping you to optimize your build. You won. I give up. Please make more test to make optimal builds. Bye.

 

My opinion is that if u do spam 2-3 mp no-ray short combos , i think pg would allow you to do 1-2 more combos in a boss run which gives strong overall dps as compare to a bk , well its true that bk would give you stronger combos though.
A quick comparison is like this
100% = 1 combo
Let's say you are spamming a 2mp combo with 1k mana
Let's assume BK would make your combo approx 7% stronger
107% + 107% + 107% + 107% + 107% = 535% total combo dmg
Let's assume PG would make your combo 2% stronger (you can do an extra combo due to pg's +300mana)
102% + 102% + 102% + 102% +102% + 102% = 612%

PG's 612% > BK 's 535%


I can only say that pg would definitely give you more overall dps in a boss run that allows you to use all your mp for spamming combos , mean while bk would give you stronger dmg per combo.

 

It wont be 186 coz its applied only once not twice.
You can consider it on any be it crt or non crt dmg.
Without range% non crt were 120 and crt would be 180(assuming makoi had no extra cdmg)
120*1.02*1.50 or 180*1.02
So if range 2% is applied on non crt first and then criticals or if applied to critical directly both will get same value 183.
Also some bosses naturally have higher def like ganglef even on normal difficulty. Its just most of the newer bosses dont have it or if they have they would have very low hp like grylle which can easily be one combo killed anyway. But this may change if they decide to release newer bosses with high def again.

 

It pretty much comes down to the point where as of you have either BK or PG and yes PG does provide a small amount of damage bonus, but BK obvious gives more dmg the most often.

Then again near no one has a dps char with 100% stab so someone with PG in weapon could still win from someone with Bk in weapon cuz the damage fluctuates

As for me I'll go down the route of PG cuz it gives me 300mp and I dun like to rely on meh auto's too much; I'd rather spam 15x 100 mp combos then 12x 100 mp combos and then regen; if you do short runs Bk will probably outdmg you though. (and yes spamming still is a thing so I kind of need my mp )

Especially since the upcoming update wit the ampr boost that rampage provide I'll be more leaning towards PG then Bk, but then again thats just my opinion

 

120 = non long range; non crit
180 = non long range; crit
122 = long range non crit

So from this on you can do the math
120*1.02 (cuz of the long range) = 122*1.5 = 183
120*1 (if long range applies later) = 180*1.02 = 183.6

 

Well, i have made a video, i will upload it and show you..

 

Its multiplication you can not say which comes first which comes last.
My point was before applying range% non crt was 120 and crt was 180.
Range % can apply on both they will still get the same answer
(120*1.02 = 122.4 non crt when criticals becomes 122.4*1.50 = 183.6)
or (180*1.02 = 183.6 if we directly consider critical hit)
but whenever the number pops on the screen it always neglects the decimal thats why they still show 122 when its in fact 122.4 or 183 when its 183.6
Also you dont notice that it gives +3dmg to critical hit while only +2dmg to non critical hit.
So if your base dmg keeps getting higher and higher range dmg% will keep giving more dmg+

 

Did you factor in stability as well?

 

99-100 would still give 2 diff values.
Factoring that i think it should be enough yo make up for the missing 2-3k. Even sometimes 100% stab gives 2 diff values too..
But i think bk , ayame's point is whoever goes first in a multiplication doesnt matter because..
21 x 22 x 23 = 10626
23 x 22 x 21 = 10626
22 x 23 x 21 = 10626
Etc etc etc..

 

Thank goodness someone did the math explanation for me!

 

OK guys it's time to stop your math is killing me

 

Thi

This is my last reply, STR +3 being better than PG as your choice answers all of the questions in my mind. Bye for now.

 

I'm here only to fix dmg% calculation, i still reccomend BK for damage and PG for survival



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