Brawler Guide! : UPDATED

I see..great response here..if thats the case then having lower crit stat would be not bad..well, i cnt reset for nw and also i stick to my crit stat for now..thank u
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Regarding getting better hit if high crit rate, based on experience, before the stat i hve ryt now, i had 135agi and 50 crit before .no dex.. I barely hit forestia/gskell...so i made a dummy character(delete it after my tests)upto lvl 40+ i think, i tried building 60 dex and 60crit...and the results are, i hit alot and crit alot...then tried higher aspd next 70 agi, 20 dex 30crit...i missed but my crit still lands..so frm there, i learned that u need to hit something first before u apply critical chance then damage..so i reset my main brawler to 125agi, 30dex 30crit...snd the results are pretty good so far..now that i learned from callous that %crit is a stand alone effect, i might lower my crit stat..but before doing that, i would like to replace all my fwolf xtals and put more boss gob xtals to add more %crit in my gears...

 

is a crafted ooze armor with agi+5% asp+5% cri+5% good for us brawlers?

 

Depends on your brawler. :3 Personally I would say their good stats~

 

My friend ever tell me that, there is a game called Dungeons and Dragons (D&D). To roll crit there, we have to roll a 20 in a 20 side dice. When we increase our crit rate, the range broadens (rolll a 19-20, roll a 18-20 n soon). When you hit the number, it will guarantee you a hit. If that apply here, It will mean that with crit rate, we can score more hit.

I always think that in every atk, will always come first hit calculation whether it will score a hit or no then crit calculation. But I can be wrong. If every crit we make will guarantee a hit, increase crit rate will absolutely mean decrease miss.

 

And renders DEX and HIT RATE useless for knuckle users

 

Guys. My brawler has 40 crit and succesfully land hit on forestia.(thats on 55 and 60 level capd = means no jamadhar atm) . There are misses but still acceptable. In othwr hand, You shouldnt change your build based on 1 boss( forestia) alone though.
Every game has different algorithm for crit proc rate. While game developer wont give player its algorithm secret, we can do reverse engineering analysis by experimenting several samples like firefox and other did(salute to them all). And it leads to discovering how crit affect your hit even without dex added. By seeing what they shared, as a reader we can conclude whether crit build is suitable for your own build or not.

 

it's not useless. When your hit lower than the mobs' flee, you will have a chance for miss. So if u have your hit point same as forestia flee point, you won't miss even if u dont make crit.
If in this game, every crit will guarantee hit. You will see less miss if you increase crit rate. Cause every crit you make, will guarantee that you'll hit the mobs with that crit.

 

thank you very much.

 

I can advice on this currently I have 50 crit on my char, and I hit forestia (the boss with the highest flee so far) 40 crit missed quite a lot.. 50 crit did wonders. I must clarify that crit does not increase hit. Crit works differently. The reason why I put crit is because crit never misses at all (when you do miss, it's actually white 'normal melee') the idea here is to increase chances of crit happening since it never misses (you will never see a yellow 'miss') imagine a stat that never misses, and you only need to make sure that every hit (or almost every hit) is a crit.. that's why I add crit ^_^

However I must add that for a brawler, agi increases base attack (I think) so you need agi to at least max aspd for it to be effective (full crit brawler is gonna crit alot, but hits like a mouse fighting a cat) if your attack is too low, the mob/boss def may render your attack useless.. a full crit char may be extremely stupid IMO (but I stand to be corrected)! Anyone keen to try?

 

may i just ask is holy fist worth getting you know just to chain combos

 

so 50 stat points on crit would be useless?* geez i dont know how sleepy i was when i typed this haha, excuse me

 

If you want high ATK then crt stat is useful~*

 

Just 1 lvl is enuf

 

HF depends on your INT, so if you are full AGI then your HF will not be effective.

 

i dont quite understand your post, but im just gonna assume you mean 'is 50 crt is useless?'..
to clarify, 50 crt is my 'comfortable' reccommendation (for now, hits forestia easily since i have no dex; crt is my replacement for hit)..
i said a 'FULL crt' is useless because you need aspd for more chances at crt, and more base damage

 

thanks for replying, yeah i have 50 on crit but when jamadhars came out i felt kinda uncomfortable with the overdose of CRT;/

 

no prob!
actually to clarify, i mentioned forestia easier to hit WITH jamadhar..
40 crt with jamadhar was still a little hard to hit XD

 

So, it's confirmed that crit is never miss. That what I need to know whether crit guarantee a hit or not.

Btw another info that you guys might want to know and maybe some are already know. when u use light armor, you will gain more 2 apsd/agi. so usually mine is about 1.2k apsd without light arm and 1.7k apsd with light arm. but like we know, 1.1k is the cap, that will mean we don't need it over 1.1k apsd. But coz agi increase flee and my build is Assassin Brawler, that will mean agi is my main build. I will consider crit later but with Jamadhar and Forestia Dagger, I think my crit rate is enough for now. My aim for now is stack mp steal as many as possible to spam 1mp combo so the mobs can't start it's direct hit.

about sober analysis, you guys need to read judakou guide. http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/guide-numerical-mp-management.1306/

his guide make me wanna remake my brawler, coz I use sober analysis.

Actually, crit on brawler is just acceptable. Brawler is not a dps, so brawler crit only mean for less miss, the damage of crit is just so so... .

 

My advice is if u wanna add crit stat, its better if u on multiple 3 value. coz it's give 1% crit rate every 3 crit stat

 

Any excess points that go into ASPD after it reached 1100 cap is actually increasing attack animation speed, which goes hand in hand with atk mp recover. I was a dagger knuckle with over 1,7k aspd like u n i can inflict 3-4 normal hits within 1 second real time, thus recover 1 mp bar within that 1 second. So any increase in ASPD is never a bad idea.