cdmg, cdmg%, crate, crate%

Sigh............................... seems like we players are the one who should figure this out. Sigh......................

 

yes. i've tried asking some basic stuff before and this is what i get as an email reply from Asobimo.

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@tekuuei This is when im using p.arm dex4% crit6
Highest againts forestia is 17k

While below picture is with cdmge4% cdmge6 scale armor +warmonger xtal (total of 12% cdmge) 19k being the highest.


17k+ * 12% = 19k.

(Seems right that cdmg6 is solid +6% to your base cdmge)

 

thats some hard effin damage.. dammm

 

I love DPS character

 

cheers to that man. i love seeing big numbers hahaha

 

I think you can test the cmdmg+ by using drills and custom armor with +cdmg to see what the offset looks like

 

I just did this againts lavarca without cdmge4%+cdmge6 crit hits 5-22 when cdmge4%+cdmge6 is equipped crit hits 22-55. (Idk how will i explain the increase dmge tho. Seems more than 10% inc to me)
Il make a vid later imma go sleep its 3am already.

 

I think it's because the 4% CD adds towards the damage for the second part.

Since twin slash increases critical damage, etc. It's a little hard to judge fairly and also depends on the boss damage fall off rate.

Try not to do a combo. Test it out only using a skill like astute for any times using those two armors. See what difference it makes.

Thanks for experimenting

 

It was an assumption made by someone without any proof backing it up. I played around with crit damage and I can assure you that raw crit damage does not add plain damage to crit damage. You can try it by using cat paws, which has 100% stability, and an armor with crit damage +6.

 

Do u know why I said it is more likely a mistake in %?

Base critical damage of any char is 150% which means it is 1.5× of a normal damage.

So in math terms, 50% more of white damage.

So what if a drill claw that says -150 Misses out on the %? It means u are doing a negative of 150%. So which also means that if your normal damage is 1000 and when you critical at 150% base critical you will do 1500 right? If it's -150% means u will be doing a critical damage of 1. Makes sense?

Another thing is also like what you suggest. U can test out and experiment with the paws and critical damage+.

 

First off, drill has -150 crit damage, not -150% crit damage. I'm saying that raw crit damage does not simply add a plain number to your total critical damage, like for example if you have a critical damage of 3,200 and add a gear that has crit dmg+10, the critical damage won't be 3,210, hope that make sense?

 

Dude, which is why I mention that the text Might be missing a %.

If it isn't, please do tell me why a mere -150 Gives a 1 damage on critical? Pls do the math.

And yes it might not be a simple -5 means -5 raw damage. Maybe a little more.

And also why does the critical damage+ uses the least potential resource during crafting compared to the other critical stats? And not to mention, critical damage % uses a chuck of potential. Logically speaking, this is to prevent overpowering an equipment with tons of crit damage % Stat.

Please do enlighten me.

 

Idk how to provide a accurate formula for this (im terrible with math) but heres what i get when i dont use cdmge+cdmge armor.

And this is when i use cdmge+cdmge armor

As you can see the dmge is double (increase more than 12%) compared to non cdmge armor. Well the math geeks can help us how this solid cdmge really works.

*thats a full dex character 240+ atk stat maybe this could help.

 

If you have read my previous post, what I am pointing out here is, raw crit damage does have a formula into it, it does not simple add a plain damage. You actually answered it out yourself, Why does -150 crit damage gives you 1 crit damage? It's because it does not simply decreases 150 of your crit damage.

 

What I meant is that if -150 is -150% then u got 0% for crit damage when you crit. No matter how high your attack is, it will still do 1, unless u have additional % which makes it more than 150% base crit damage.

But anyway need a lot more testing to be done. One thing I know for sure is that one can try out using a lot of crit damage % gears and use that drill claw, see if it still does 1 damage on critical. If it doesn't, it means that asobimo miss out on the %.

Another is to try doing skill burst and check out the critical damage with and without claw, don't use normal hits. And many other test

And of cos I might be wrong too if things sums up.

And thanks for makoi for the test but I think need a more in depth one like I mention if you can

 

What's your armor stats for cd And cd% on second test.

 

I think the reason why they hit 1 with drill is because of a high lvl mob/boss. Let me try it again sinxe lavarca is a low lvl mob.

 

First picture im usig fw garb.
2nd picture im using cdmge4% cdmge6 and +2 cdmge from wm xtl

 

It's too weak for cd% to work. But 8 cd Adds about 20-22(using the lowest number on both image). Whiche means about 3-4 damage per 1 point of CD when you critical.

It's easier to test and see from low damage point of view. If lets say it's about 3, then -150(drill claw) x 3 = -450 damage.

Somehow it's still missing info, doesn't add up at all since -450 is minor and won't make you do 1 critical damage.

I would like to add in that if you can. Do more damage, in thousands with and without armor. I might want to see what factor adds it up. Since if it's only adds a multiplier of 3 or 4 per point then it's pretty weak in on its own, unless 5here are other factors included.