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Holy fist star gem

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by bloodytolits, Mar 16, 2018.

  1. bloodytolits

    bloodytolits Hiatus. Playing Ragnarok M Elite Member

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    Is it worth wasting around 500k spina to save 1 sp?

    I dunno why it is so expensive, unlike sonic wave and reflex star gem which saves you 6 sp.

    Still contemplating if I should buy this or not...
     
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    Bago2 Well-Known Member

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    buy with spina or buy orbs to reset??? just choose :p
    always fun to have extra skill point/s on hand but that my pov toodles
     
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    If the skill is included in the skill tree you using i thinks it's just a waste of Spina and stargem slot. A stargem thats not in the tree you chose + higher tier skills that allows you to use it even without having the prerequisite skill will always be worth the Spina and the stargem slot
     
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    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    It is expensive because of the demand, since holyfist is fast, can be use as both combo opener and closer, can also be use for a non flinch/tumble combo, a filler, etc.

    Sonicwave, definitely not for non tumble combo. Reflex can be use as a filler though it lowers your def and mdef. ^_^
     
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    Noob qns sir. Why would anyone do not want a flinch or stumble combo? what is the disadvantage of it?
     
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    double post
     
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    bloodytolits Hiatus. Playing Ragnarok M Elite Member

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    But but you only really need 1 sp to get that. Sonic wave level 1 won't tumble anything unless you're lucky(or unlucky).

    Although I actually decided to buy it because I thought of a build for my brawler once 150 skills are out, and I can't really spare any sp(even strong chase gets the boot). And I still lack sp zzzzzzzzzz.......
     
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    bloodytolits Hiatus. Playing Ragnarok M Elite Member

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    Some bosses gets pissed off when flinched/tumbled/stunned. Which pisses off your teammates in turn and gets you kicked out of parties LoL.

    Notable(well the only ones I remember) examples are:

    Jade Raptor: I forgot :).

    Nurethot: Counter attacks with wide area attack when interrupted. Only does this when HP is high. Safe to interrupt when HP is about 30%(?).

    Pillar Golem: Turns red and will smash you to oblivion.

    Cerberus: Different modes(?) Depending on what type of interrupt you use. The only "mode" I know is when your damage turns into binary(1s and 0s LoL).

    Evil Crystal Beast: Heals 1,000 HP when flinched.

    Black Knight of Delusion: Jumps backwards when tumbled.

    Tyrant Machina: Can only be tumbled once every 20(?) seconds else he counterattacks with spikes.
     
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    t(^_^t) make your mama proud Elite Member

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    Imitica when tumbled puts everyone to sleep.
    I think its worth every spina.. I always buy cheap anyway. One has to remember skillpoints needs orbs to reset and are limited. Having stargems opens a lot of usability at the cost of spina which can easily be farmed.
     
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    Some boss gets enraged by interrupt skills, thus holyfist can be an alternative for smash/sonicwave/earthbind/hardhit.

    Every point counts since we have limited sp.

    ^_^
     
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    u need more than just 500k. lv1 holy fist isnt that good
     
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    bloodytolits Hiatus. Playing Ragnarok M Elite Member

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    Not for the damage. It's only used as combo starter or filler.
     
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    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    I would rather prefer hunter skill kick. Since knock back is not on the "sensitive" list and even if is a bit slower than holy fist, the animation is much cooler.
     
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    bloodytolits Hiatus. Playing Ragnarok M Elite Member

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    I beg to differ, I hate that pirouette like animation. Looks a bit gay too TBH *cough* no offence :p.

    Plus knockback already screwed me enough already. Dodging the boss AoE then 1 of your teammates suddenly kicks the boss so you're back in its AoE's range.....
     
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    i just want to ask...sorry for rip english and out of topic...but how can i get impact star gem ?...besides cb
     
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    magic impact is a lv3 skill. u hav to start with a lv1 skill star gem from magic tree. then u level it to lv10. done that u able to evolve it to the next skill step by step level to 10 and evolve until u get impact.
    hope this explains english not my first language either lol
     
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    evolve it to next skill? so if i have lvl 10 magic arrow...what happent if i evolve it?
    sorry bad eng
     
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    get arrows lv1 > arrows lv10 evolve > javelin lv1 > javelin lv10 evolve > lances lv1 > lv10 lances evolve > impact lv1
     
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    so lvl 10 arrows change to lvl 1 javelin?
    are we need 1000 arrows star gems just to get lvl 1 impact?
     

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