economy inflation?

Well idk what kind of mod is this but recently found a guy in seraph area killing lots of minibosses at once all by himself.

 

I dont know if you guys aware of script. It is possible for bot to kill just ms and then back to complete the quest, get the new one and then farm once again.
For example : bot at twilight dragon map (i forgot the name) on int 2 or 3. It farm mobs and sell at einklang. And allkill (andeg seller), he wont accept spina less than the shout price.
I could say it is fairly possible for this quest to be scripted and botted.

 

lets say theres 12 players in one channel, and there is 20ch+
rn, thats about +240m spinas generated from nothing in one hour.
cb need to swallow 67k tax spinas each second to reach the same ammount... that mean cb need to sell items worth670k spinas Each second.

20ch is tame, remember how many chnnels at nc was.

 

true bro
its just funny theres some people here who's in denial
also that one guy who always dickriding asobimo everytime smh

 

Is it not the robber's fault?

 

Not exactly, a lot of inflation is how much money is created over time. All currency is being created and all are being destroyed as well. Like for example in the USA: A lot of dollars are destroyed by either being old, torn up, lost, etc. and to remedy this the government prints more money to keep the money at the same worth. If the rate of gain and loss are the same, there is no net change in how much 1$ is worth.

Let us apply this same economic process to the spina, since quests and selling items to the in-game shops generate more spina to circulate and the ways to destroy spina is to use in-game shops, people getting banned, consignment board tax, NPC blacksmith/synth, people quitting the game and some other ways I forget. If we were to think in terms of 300k/20mins (which is around how long it took me to get 100 metal stinger kills in a mediocre party) that's the amount of spina being generated by ONE player if they continuously do this quest. Making 3m from that would take about 3 hours, seems like a decently long amount of time.

Though there is another factor to economics to take account for when it comes to pricing and value, opportunity cost. A lot of the ways to make good money in toram before this required either luck, price timing, or a high opportunity cost.
Getting valuable crysta? Luck.
Selling a rare drop? Luck.
Farming a common drop? Sell when prices are high.
Blacksmithing? Make a high level character, use up lots of materials. (And even still they'd probably do only 1 or 2 of the jobs to make an expensive item)
This quest is just the most consistant way to get money, meaning there is no risk to doing it. You'll always get 300k spina, you only need to kill an enemy 100 as opposed to getting a rare drop, and you arent using up many resources to get said reward.

Basically, though this may not offset the economy as much as people say it will, it will cause a noticable amount of inflation. Due to all the factors of the circling spina economy, there is more likely going to be more of an influx of spina being generated by this quest than spina being lost by people being banned and such.

 

Do the police in your country really say that?
In mine they would start finding the robber as soon as possible.
Maybe different culture.

 

They havent felt the pain of irunas inflation lol they overthink stuff way too much I think the forum moderators should ban the negativity post cuz it runs off the weak minded players who believe everything they read on here

 

"why farm mino skin 480k/h if you can farm ms 1m/h and get 1m exp aswell"
you know whats going to happen..

 

For a poor player like me I do like how easy it's to get spinas now but but like others said it won't happen right away but xtal which is usually only cost 1 mill + will later cost 10 to 20 mill if this continues.

Before there is a non mmorpg that I often played but after inflation expensive items goes up to trillions. If asobimo don't want this to happen they need to get rid of spinas reward and perhaps as compensation increase the exp rewards.

 

Its already happening!
Its like what? 3rd or 4th day of quest?
I assume combined with the banning of bots(?) n modders, n this quest, the prices of items rose as rarity returned to normal.
York, previously 350k? Now 900k n rising
Tyrant, 800k, now 1.5m n rising..
Odelon? 900k due to specter, now 1.7m n rising
The rings? Cheapest; machina ring, previously 200k+ now 450k N RISING!
Nothing really changed!
We earned less n spent around ..e.g 230k for machina ring.
Now we r earning 300k/25 min or so, n spend equally as much as we earn or more, hell(sry) as richer as we get, the more we have to spend as well.
The quest is good n all..but this sudden rise in prices? This is not good ._.) l dun like it.
Ppl say ‘inflation’ would take effect over course of 2 weeks, hell nah :v, its happening already xD
I like earnig spina, but at this rate? Poor will get poorer, while rich get richer :’3 a sad truth, since ‘its a good quest for newbies’, ok excuse me..player in Akaku demand ‘capped’ player, ‘fk/mk’ player, certain class with certain skills, how does a newbie get it? Nah uh, its just a face of ‘to help newbies’ that everyone feeds off of, except those who need it.
Even if nerfed?
I prefer The reward to be reduced ‘a lil’ not alot :v that just takes the fun out..
But in exchange, the exp be raised so players can lvl up fast! Now that is useful for newbies :V

Note: l..apologize for the long rant..didnt realize it was too long..

 

Uh...why are people blaming tthe devs for these things?
There is no real economy other then what the players made, the players decide these prices, farm them xtas, buy spina via RMT and the players are the ones over farming this quest.

Why always blame the devs for what the player base does?

 

Finally got some time reply to this.

Won't disagree with this. Developers aren't omnipotent, nowhere near so. But, we aren't talking about BUGS in the system. We're talking about possible user manipulation that Devs should be considering when implementing new systems. There are literal diagrams and list that can and do get the pros and cons of what your system will potential do on the user end. If you're not considering user abuse, then you're not considering how shitty your player-base can be to screw up their own fun.

Then why talk about this if the economies inflation won't effect you? As far as i'm concerned, the economy inflating from a massive amount of cheating, directly effects those who try to acquire spina through legitimate means. Making those efforts worth progressively less as more cheaters join to the scale of inflation until supply/demand doesn't fit the "work done" to "wages earned" by legitimate means. That to me, isn't fun, as I enjoy being rewarded for the effort given. And i'm sure other's do to.

I had to redact what I said here, because I cursed you out for assuming why I stayed playing this game for so long and have quit. I'll give you a hint though. It's not because it's free2play.

You realize that spina inflation is a thing relative to ratios right? The amount of pure spina input into this game is relatively low, making any systems that add more spina that much more sensitive to the whole of the economy.

Nothing will get Iruna bad, as that economy was doomed to failure from the start. So much so that the words "economy" and Iruna are and have been a joke for years. Like, it's laughibly bad as the rate at which inflation grows there makes any other economy in any other game look "good" by comparison.

Iruna's inflation is a joke. You can hardly call what goes on there an economy, and haven't been able to for years.

Nobody wants to be within even 1/10th of the inflation Iruna has, as it would TANK most in-game economies. So i'd rather be overcautious then be "LOLOLOL THIS AIN'T EVEN INFLATION BRO". Jesus. *******. Christ.

Because, me hombre, as much as the players influence the economy through their actions. The Devs give "routes" for that economy to form through the systems they implement into the game. Nobody is saying the player's aren't shitty scumbags that will ruin their own fun in an instant if given the chance. I think the players are very much in fault. But, the Devs also have a part in giving players the tools to abuse the game. Especially when there are known avenues to do so that will accelerate a system or encourage known (uncaught) cheaters to cheat more.

Also, this Dev team has prove time and time again to be as thick as fucking boulders. Too the point that I can't even play Devil's Advocate for the dumbass shit they've implemented. That's just my opinion though.

Edit:
Now if i'm wrong on this, and it does improve improve the economy through other means, cool. I can call myself a dumbass and praise the devs for a good system. If it does make things worse. Welp, whatever. Same dumpster fire we've always been in.

 

Because those people is RMT player, they spend so much money to get advantage on this game but somehow the new quest take away this advantage from them.

TBH the so called 300K/30 minutes only work for those oldest player, 100 MS per 30 minutes in a party mean 1 person need to handle 25 ms in 30 minutes, which mean each MS need to use less then a minutes to kill. This is work only when the player in party all have Tier-4 skill. And if they already have tier-4 skill, I’m afraid now they go hunt Anniv event to get 100 goin coin in 30 minutes is better then earn 300k/30minutes, because this 100 gold coin can turn to million, and this still not put the anniversary silk and box in count.

Price in cB rise? I can see a lot of 300k below star gem and Quick aura have been drop from 3m to 1.5m, Lyark crystal from 3m drop to 1.1m. You see only expensive just because the cheapest one is sold.

 

well, iruna economy was not doomed because of inflation, but players being greedy.
like almas xtal used to be 3m each in a era of "we need a full pt with strongest players of every class to beat it" and after ultimi upgrade comes out in less than 3 hours almas xtal price rised from 3-4m to 600+ without a valid reason, in a era that everyone was able to solo/ 1 hit it.
if toram economy falls it ill not be because a quest that givs 3k spina but bcoz players are greedy


and devs cant make anything about it

 

600m? That crazy....

 

People being greedy does not ruin an economy, an economy which is exploitable is what makes people greedy.

 

remmember, without a valid reason like the boss being buffed or something like that, just becoz ppl wanted to do it even the boss being easy killable

 

we are talking about a game players can do anything they want, if players for now decide that they ill sell iconos for 20m each, iconos ill be sold for 20m each

 

This did not deny anything of what I said