1. Welcome to the Toram Online Forums. Please make sure to read our rules and be friendly to all our members.
    Click here to read the rules before posting.
    Dismiss Notice

About refinement values

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by The Lost One, Oct 29, 2019.

  1. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2018
    Messages:
    1,430
    Likes Received:
    607
    IGN:
    <-Kenji-
    Is it really necessary to make a weapon reach +S? Or +B is enough?

    For a casual person like me who doesn't care about attack rank, +B already deals decent amount of damage imo. Why do people strive to make their equipment reach +S? I was able to reach +S once on proto but for some reason, why do I feel the resources I poured on this weapon will just easily replaced by newer and more powerful weapons in the future making it pointless imo.

    Was it for rank?for numbers?
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2019
  2. Zufeng

    Zufeng Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2018
    Messages:
    791
    Likes Received:
    687
    +B is standard
    Imo, the reason why i go for +S is for practical reason (Killing boss asap)
    Generally, weapons are mandatory to reach +S for me, while for +B is enough for arm and add.

    Unless if it for tank, then try to go full +S since frac resist is dam good
     
  3. -Kazuki-

    -Kazuki- Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2016
    Messages:
    702
    Likes Received:
    155
    IGN:
    -Kazuki-
    Same here brother. I cannot be bothered to refine my equipments to higher than +B. Even though yes i have equipments that are higher than +B but that's just because they were on board for a really cheap price lol so i bought them
     
  4. UfuLamb

    UfuLamb Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2016
    Messages:
    970
    Likes Received:
    452
    Cuz people can afford it.

    just like how others can afford a Mercedes.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  5. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2018
    Messages:
    1,430
    Likes Received:
    607
    IGN:
    <-Kenji-
    Really? Refinement provides fractional resist? e-e I thought it only provides physical and magic resistance.

    True, dealing more damage does makes the run faster and I agree to that but having to invest a lot of resources is quite extreme imo and the item is going to be replaced 2-3 months when new recipes or drops are released.

    Glad tonknow someone also share the same thought about rhis matter.
     
  6. -Kazuki-

    -Kazuki- Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2016
    Messages:
    702
    Likes Received:
    155
    IGN:
    -Kazuki-
    Yeah and also 2slots equipments are a big nope. I've had only 1 slotted gear my whole Toram Online life (machina ring doesnt count) and i managed to take attacker rank 85% of the time. It's like, strategy is more important than strength
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  7. Quit toram

    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2016
    Messages:
    1,217
    Likes Received:
    961
    Even for armors +C is enough, in the end it's only 3% or so resistance compared to +S. The time and money you spent for it is most likely not worth the minor difference in value.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  8. DRAGNiLL

    DRAGNiLL Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2018
    Messages:
    168
    Likes Received:
    44
    IGN:
    DRAGNiLL
    QwQ well Refining is fun and I always use npc drop/craft equipments with pure mono build but in the end I am always busy in irl daily life and unable to play too much T-T so for people like me +D to +B is enough i guess ! Those who likes to farm bosses too much, they might have soo many spina that they can keep up with the new recipes and equipments(player craft)....it’s just like self satisfaction or playing the ‘Trying the hardest ’ XD (The more active you are in toram the more you can earn):V
     
  9. Zufeng

    Zufeng Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2018
    Messages:
    791
    Likes Received:
    687
    That's part of every game cycle.
    At some time, you need to replace your old equips with new one to keep pace with new content.
    But yeah, +B is enough

    Reason why i invest in tank because their gears stay for a very long time compared to dps
     
  10. NIHIL

    NIHIL Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2017
    Messages:
    241
    Likes Received:
    430
    IGN:
    Nihilism
    And here i am, didn't even bothered to refine higher than C+ because the only thing i care is more action and fun. Althought being weak isn't that fun, but i think it's way more better if you're being average and think that everyone equally strong as you are.
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2019
  11. KamiKai

    KamiKai Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2019
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    20
    IGN:
    Kamikai
    Would be nice to actually see the stat modifiers on refined gear. I never know what Im really getting out if it.
     
  12. Kaejuda

    Kaejuda Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2018
    Messages:
    628
    Likes Received:
    325
    Refining is the process of strengthening a weapon or armor. In case of weapon, +N refine means N2 % and +N bonus attack. For example, a weapon with 100 original attack is refined to +6. It gets +(62% × 100) and +6 bonus, totaling 100 + 36 + 6 = 142 attack power. In case of armor/additional/shield, each refine gives +1% physical and magic resistance.

    f887db8f30b0f16af29b749f72d16e3ec8d3a2a0v2_hq.jpg
    source : Amino (1 year old post,might not be all correct but close enough)

    the more atk a weapon has,the more refine affects it,in this case 2HS,OHS,Halberd

    weapons like katana or bow,knuckles you can leave it at B and still be a-ok.

    well,i mean in case if you're rich enough then +S shouldn't be a problem,why not.
     
  13. S@Ble

    S@Ble Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2018
    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    30
    IGN:
    S@Ble
    I would do +S for weapon since 184% and 240% make a big different. However with armour and addition I go with + B for 1 slot or +S for NS. Unless u are an archer maybe no need. I saw a lot of bow player do a 1hp round so they would die if they get hit anyway.

    I dont know how often people change the equipment but isnot it every 6 months to a year?

    And yes , refinement deduct fractional damage as well
     
  14. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2018
    Messages:
    1,430
    Likes Received:
    607
    IGN:
    <-Kenji-
    Every cap update people tend to change their equipments just for a mere additional +1 crit and critdamage. New recipes are also added sometimes.
     
  15. KamiKai

    KamiKai Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2019
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    20
    IGN:
    Kamikai
    Ive seen the guide on weapons. But i still have no idea about armor or add gears.
    My point was there should be a indicator on what stats are being upgraded on the actual item or during refinement.
     
  16. S@Ble

    S@Ble Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2018
    Messages:
    117
    Likes Received:
    30
    IGN:
    S@Ble
    arm and add gear refine increase physical , magic and franction defence

    for example , +E (+ 10) would reduce 10% fractional damage , increase 10% magic and physical resis
     
  17. ugliest

    ugliest Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2017
    Messages:
    925
    Likes Received:
    353
    IGN:
    ugliest
    i used to refine because i like to gamble.

    I can make spina easily in the game. I can kill bosses. The only thing I don't have control over is how long it will take for something to get to S lol
     
  18. HoboOnline

    HoboOnline Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2018
    Messages:
    525
    Likes Received:
    262
    IGN:
    FamousToramPlayer
    +S by chance, make a rule 100/200 antigens to +S otherwise stop at +B. The benefits of +S weapons is overwhelmed by proration.
     
  19. CrazyRay

    CrazyRay Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2018
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    46
    IGN:
    Elveniz
    Refining to +s is easy and it sells high too. If you've been there, it's more logical to make things +s everytime.

    As for slots, they were cheap since the roll back happen. +s 2s weapons sells like 20-40m. Meanwhile prime piercers are only 1-10m.

    Lastly why not? It's not like in real world situation where you'll have to save all the money and materials.
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2019
  20. Jackal♧

    Jackal♧ Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2019
    Messages:
    410
    Likes Received:
    49
    IGN:
    Jackal♧
    alpha
     

Share This Page