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1h + Dagger help

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Kitsuryu, Apr 11, 2016.

  1. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    with poration my throwink knive goes up to 300. my best was 600 with a critical hit.
     
  2. Kitsuryu

    Kitsuryu I'M RETIRED Elite Member

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    Same on my lvl 20...
     
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    im a mage without STR.
    my attack is 200 (300 because of Roga Staff)
    i never tested daggers on other classes.

    also if a lv20 character can do 300+ damage with a skill that has the same power as an auto-attack, then something is wrong with your stats.
    how many extra stat points do you have?
    (i have 55, if i put them all in STR and equip a sword, i can also do 500 damage per attack with a low lvl character -.- )
     
  4. Kitsuryu

    Kitsuryu I'M RETIRED Elite Member

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    Its in a combo, in total my auto is roughly 600 and my combo is 1.2k.
    Full Dex build so far
     
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    well im not from alpha. so im refering blaster mage is a mage who use blast as skill? i think noone use it.. so i guess its a blaster brawler/staff fu build from @equites which is more feasible build right now with decent damage, with this build i can produce 5k normal hit attack to certain mobs tho.
    if i want, i can use GSPD pot with that build and have decent aspd without feather cape. while power wave is optional whether you want to attack from far away or not.(to me f cape is useless bec of gspd pot) NB: theres a youtuber who use powerwave for their staff fu build. ;)
    anyway... the trending build nowadays isnt about aspd and hitting mobs with rapid normal attacks..... its about spamming skill and deals the most damage in a certain limited amount of time. so quickdraw skill, large mp pool, motion speed trick, save combo, and other spamming combo setup is most likely in demand :)

    but get back to this thread topic, dagger is under rated these dayas even tho there was an update of dagger skill dmg multiplier in the past.
    Im trying to have a 1h dagger.. but til lv 50ish, i gave up, it didnt show any potential to deal decent damage. or maybe i built a wrong skill setup.
     
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    Im not from alpha either, I have only heard of this build. As far as my 1H/Dag, I have two. One using GatKnife at Lv70, and one at lev 52 without Gat Knife. Tbh....Not worth it. At all. You would be better off Using the stats of the knife only... And focussing on Pure blade skills. But thats My take on it. I could be wrong
     
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    Dex1:str1 will be good?
     
  8. Saphos

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    I heard about that build, but never seen it in action. Not played alpha either. But with staff a gaining 51% Crit-Dmg at max STR + 40% bonus from Power wave, I can see that build working ^^
     
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    Only thing is that hit rate is a huge problem
     
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    Hit rate, Crit rate, MD sub is bad as it lowers attack, so do you take Knuckles and not spam TK? Do you take Dagger and live with bad damage?

    The Blaster build has a lot of potential issues, probably why it remained an alpha-only build ^^
     
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    do we got bonus 40% atk from powerwave?.
    i thot its only reduce atk penalty.
     
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    With staff, range increases to 12m and add 40% damage to auto attack outside of staff's default range.
    MD main gets 0 range bonus (max 10m) but 70% damage bonus to auto attack outside of MDs default range.
    MD as sub nullifies Power wave penalty.
     
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    Anyone know how much damage that poison dagger skill give with full dex?
     
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    DEX / 2 + Atk / 100

    So at max DEX now, you can get around 112 + 13 = 125 per tick.
     
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    As far as I know secondary weapon didnt give attack from attack weapon..
    Only gives sub status like evasion, critical etc
     
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    Honestly, I have given up On dagger. My only hope for its retribution failed, as I tried to do Unarmed dagger. Unarmed toons have instant 1500 ASPD, and AGI/ASPD is 1:15.... BUT even with hidden arm, The attacks are only baseline dagger damage. Not relly worth it at all. I tried doing STR over AGI, so If anyone can make this build work with Unarmed?Dag With Full AGI lemme know.
     
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    unarmed chars need str to gain atk.
    just doing agi will leave your atk at 1, or whatever it is when you are unarmed ...
     
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    I know that. I was talking abou using Dagger subweapon, And dorrting Hidden Arm/Intensive Knife. My only problem with that is... Even with a @56 Bush KNife... Th damage is a constant 56. But at 4-5k ASPD Would that be sufficient?even at 2k ASPD I can shred some enemies with only hitting for 56.... But the fact that 56 dmg never scales is a problem.

    Anyone Know how to make Hidden Arm dagger skill scale?
     
  19. Toramwasmyidea

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    How fast are your animation past 2.5k?:eek:
     
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    Its scary fast. Like stupid fast. The Unarmed animation is fast as is... and fast 2.5k... its a blur.
     

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