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2H Berserker-Bomb Build [WIP]

Discussion in '2-Hand' started by VVD, Apr 2, 2018.

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Do you like this build?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Looks interesting.. can't decide

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  1. VVD

    VVD Active Member

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    Build characteristics
    master of proration and high-dmg bomb combo

    Buff Combo (3mp)
    War Cry > Rampage (Save) > Berserker (Swift) > Trigger Slash (Cons)

    Alternative Buff Combo for less MP:
    Buff Combo 2 (1mp)
    Hard hit > Rampage (Save) > Berserker (Swift) > War Cry (Cons) [> Trigger Slash (Cons) optional]

    Bomb Combo (7mp)
    Buster Blade > Impact (Cons) > Meteor Breaker (Smite) > Trigger slash (Cons)

    Alternative longer Bomb Combos for less MP and dmg:
    Bomb Combo 2 (3mp, 110% MB)
    Buster Blade > War Cry (Save) > Impact (Cons) > Meteor Breaker (Smite) > Trigger slash (Cons)

    Bomb Combo 3 (4mp, 130% MB)
    Buster Blade > Berserker (Save) > War Cry (Cons) > Impact (Swift) > Meteor Breaker (Smite) > Trigger slash (Cons)

    Bomb Combo 4 (3mp, 130% MB)
    Buster Blade > Sword Tempest (Save) > War Cry (Cons) > Impact (Cons) > Meteor Breaker (Smite) > Trigger slash (Cons)

    Bomb Combo 5 (3mp, 150% MB)
    Buster Blade > Berserker (Save) > Sword Tempest (Cons) > War Cry (Cons) > Impact (Cons) > Meteor Breaker (Smite) > Trigger slash (Cons)


    Why such high MP cost you ask? Because this build has insane AMPR and can sustain you using high MP, high dmg, short combos. If you find yourself low on MP, use one of the available low-MP alternatives.

    Usage:
    Buff Combo > auto attack > Bomb Combo when prorate full > auto attack (to finish rampage) > repeat to Buff

    The rotation period between two Buffs is about 25-30sec, within this time you will

    • Drop one Buff and one Bomb, using total of 1000MP
    • Completed 10 hits from Rampage, gaining 800+MP (if you follow the equipment guide below, you will have at least 80+AMPR after Buff. If you have Lezvie+Tapir Xtal+2000MP, you will have 110AMPR and gain 1100MP)
    • Inflict neutral proration 10 times using 2.5 skill multiplier autos 10 times
    • Dealt physical damage 3 times (against full proration if you time it well): 100% Buster Blade, 150% Meteor, and last 3 hits from Rampage
    • Counting two Trigger Slashes, you will have provided you team a net of 5 neutral prorations.
    Stats and gear recommendation
    Stats, gear, and skill wise, you want high MP, high AMPR, some survivability, crit rate of 50 (before buff). An initial list is as follows:

    - Full Str, 40-60 Vit, rest Dex
    - For AMPR: Lezvie (Boss drop) and/or Tapir Xtal on special
    - For MP: Ifrid and/or other +MP Xtals
    - 25 Crit rate. Such as CRT stats, Proto Leon, Bexiz, 15 CRT armor, CRIT UP, Two-handed etc.

    You want to have
    - At least 5000 HP
    - No negative ASPD (Berserker will bring us over 1100)
    - At least 1300MP (2000MP recommended)
    - 50 Crit (Berserker will bring us to 100 Crit)

    The rest is up to you, standard 2H gear can be used.


    Skills
    Must-have skills
    - Blade: War Cry (10), Rampage (10), Berserker (10), Buster Blade (10), Meteor Breaker (10), Trigger Slash (10)
    - Magic: Impact (7)

    Nice-to-have skills
    - Blade: Sword Mastery (10), Sword Techniques (10), Quick Slash (10)
    - Magic: Mp Charge
    - Mononofu: Shukuchi (1-10), Two-handed (10)
    - Battle: Attack Up (10), Wack (10), Crit Up (10), Intimidating Power (10)
    - Survival: Hp Up (10), Mp Up (10)

    Why not Astute you ask? Because it doesn't do much dmg (compared to lv4 skills), wastes proration, and CRIT buff only 10 sec.

    Understanding the build:
    • With Rampage and Trigger Slash buff, you gain insane amount of ampr and aspd. Make sure you aspd is over 1100 after Buff (use Giga speed etc).
    • Bomb combo deals heavy dmg and only inflicts physical proration twice if Impact hits.
    • This is a non-spam build! Only drop Bomb when you want to burst the target (e.g. when Boss is fully broken).
    • You inflict heavy neutral proration for the party, resulting in faster clears (even though you solo normal bosses in 30 sec anyways).
    • Buff Combo can only be used when rampage is not active, so make sure to finish rampage before berserker cool down is over.

    If people like this build, I will be updating this thread as I min-max my gear. Stay tuned.
     
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  2. Neric

    Neric of House Limitless, First of His Name, The Unburnt Elite Member

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    interesting build.. I'll watch this guide. Blade passive especially sword technique is a must have skill
     
  3. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Too expensive in MP Cost, it'll make you charge for a long time between battle, and you'll struggle in a long game.
    Astute deal decent damage, and with Astute you can change your Crit Gears and xtals to DPS gears and xtals.

    So In my opinion, your build is inefficient.
     
  4. VVD

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    To the contrary, I find myself walking into battle with only 3mp to execute the buff combo and utilize AMPR to gain mp while providing team with proration. Your point might be right the build as is will suck in longer battles. I do have alternative combos planned and since you mentioned, I edited them into the post. I have not needed to use them because the AMPR of this build is just that insane.

    The eventual goal of this build is to find the sweet spot of short combos, dmg and mp cost. Since it has high ampr and designed to be non-spam, there's no need to have 1/2-mp combos.
     
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  5. VVD

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    Blade passive is must-have for dmg, but not must-have to execute the combos. Hence, they are given in the nice-to-have category.
     
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    Neric of House Limitless, First of His Name, The Unburnt Elite Member

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    oh ok.. it's not mentioned there what you just said.. don't mind it
     
  7. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Okay, Finish it first ^^ I want to see the finished version~
    Anyway I'll still Suggest Astute, you can change ur crit gear to more DPS gear and deal more damage without worrying crit. Good luck!
     
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    Neric of House Limitless, First of His Name, The Unburnt Elite Member

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    Out of topic. Many personal builds posted here are I noticed recently are for share not for critic :p
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    As a person who never has 10 bars MP, I can tell you the major turn off of this build is MP cost. If you could crush to your buff being 1 MP and the bomb being 3, then this build would be much more viable for people like myself
     
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    Berserk gives the same amount of c,rate and lasts longer
     
  11. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Base 25 + BErserker 50 = 75 that's where Astute come.
    Also this build use Normal attack prorate till the right time to burst combo, I don't think normal proration combo will be needed, it's just inefficient for me

    Anyway my comment is for you, coz neric won't accept criticize
     
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    They are in spoilers, 1MP buff and couple of 3MP bombs. I've tried them briefly, it's slower but certainly more MP friendly. You will still be offering massive neutral proration for the party.

    The problem with low MP cost combos is that they require save tag, and long combos are necessary for full 150% smite if we use save tag.

    In my test, rampage can be completed in 10-15sec and gives at least +800 MP. Hence, we want to use those 800MP in the remaining 10-15 sec to deal the most amount of damage while preserving proration. So if you don't need to move all that much, 300MP bomb executed twice might even be better than a 700MP bomb executed once.

    I definitely have thought about using Astute. Main thing is that if you count Crit up and Two-handed, which are valuable passives for 2H, you really only need 15 Crit, which is easy to achieve via gear. I'm simply opinionated against wasting proration in this build.
     
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    Updated an explanation of MP management of this build under the usage section. Let me know if this resolves the doubt you have regarding mp usage.
     
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    Add quick draw
     
  15. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Okay totally agree with the 3MP Combo now. GL
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    Just wanna add that I did see the lower MP combos earlier, and I did sound like I was bashing a bit. Dunno, THS might become the new DW *cringe*
    The build seems fine as a variant, and I'm just glad people are straying
     
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    Forgot to respond to this.

    It would be a nice addition since it will give about 100MP per bomb combo. However, the sp cost is too high to justify the gain. Another reason is that 100MP won't be much anyways since the same amount will be gained by one auto.
     
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    Buff combo
    Reflex > rampage (save) > berserk (swift) > warcry (save) > buster blade (swift)

    * manual cast trigger slash if u need more ampr and swift rampage
    (Normally I cast trigger - provoke - trigger during rampage as 1h tank, u could try trigger - buster - trigger)
    *1mp cost and can be cast anywhere, activate buster blade when u get near target

    All-in-one combo
    Reflex > berserk (save) > buster blades (cons) > tempest (smite) > rampage (save) > sonic/ astute (cons) > spiral/ warcry (cons) > impact (cons) > meteor (smite) > trigger slash (swift)

    #all hail Long combo :D
    *activate from Long range, u can use sonic to dive in or go in carefully with astute;)
    *even ur close range combo cancelled by ailment, u can still use rampage...
    *swap tempest with buster if u think it is better...
    *remove impact and replace trigger slash with cons to free up 27 sp:eek:, it will be 2mp combo tho ...
     

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