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2h speed build

Discussion in 'Warrior' started by Sigur, Oct 3, 2015.

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Favorable?

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  1. Sigur

    Sigur Member

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    As you all know, crits stats only help with hit rates and crits rate, thus many 2h user tend to build str and crits.
    To start off with this build, dex helps with abit of dmg and hits(stable) and equip your character with asps gear such as wolf garb, fluffy tail, and xtal-golden skeleton xtal. Thus with stable hit rates and aspd you can have faster damage dealt.
    Reccomended build is:
    70% str
    30%dex
    My Equips:
    Forest wolf garb
    Fluffy tail(golden skeleton xtal)
    Volcanic sword 70dmg+6, str+4, atk+2%(lousy sword)
    Muscle talisman
    Recommended Skill trees:
    Blade
    hard hit 10
    Astute 10
    Trigger 10
    Sonic blade 1
    Passive all 10
    Survival
    Safe rest 5
    Hp boost 10
    Martial
    Smash 1
    Magic
    Mp charge 1
    Battle
    Atk up 10
    Smash 5
    Crit up 10
    Combos:
    Combo set 1:
    Smash-hh-astute-trigger(100mp, all consecutive)
    Hh-astute(smite)-sonic(consecutive)(300mp)
    Combo set 2:
    Hard hit-astute-sonic-trigger(all consecutive, 200mp)
    Astute-hard hit-trigger(all consecutive,200mp)
    Why?
    Combo 1 will helps a lot in balancing mp and dmg spam. With a 100 mp cost and spamming 4 skills with good cspd, you can deal stable dmg and good aspd you can regen your mp through trigger faster. With the second combo of combo 1 you can deal heavy stable dmg.
    Combo 2 allow you to utilize your cspd and allows you to have mp regen fast with aspd gears.
    Why smash skill?
    While wielding 2h, the only 100mp cost skill is hh, which is no problem for str crit build however for a str dex build which doesn't have higher dmg than str crit, can execute fast dmg spam through aspd with stabilized dmg. With this build you can have good hit rates, stabilized dmg, and good aspd.
    This helps to keep your potentially high dmg from being countered by dodge.
     
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  2. makOi

    makOi Elite Member Elite Member

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    Hmm.. Im pretty sure cspd works for those skills that has casting time while aspd when you have it cap (1k aspd) removes the interval/delay time of your normal attacks. Doesn't speedup your skill animation.
     
  3. Sigur

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    Just edited that out after making tests, with gs xtal, it gives you 300 aspd, fluffly tail 100 aspd, wolf garb around 200aspd, thus aspd boost are only up to 600 and without adding agi, you wont overused your aspd as the max aspd is 1100. With around 140 str stats the apsd you can get around are 600-800. for this build aspd is more of an advantage as for str crit, crit build is more of an advantage.
     
  4. iamMii

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    good guide. game has low level cap atm so most players go with pure str 2h to maximize damage or str/crit. and just use speed pots/fairy eye drop(accuracy+20). i also had this build before. now using a build like Combos ^
     
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  5. Sigur

    Sigur Member

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    This build benefits for those who prefer raw damage than high burst crit damage, many people would say that if you can have high damage why bother a build like mine, however high burst damage doesnt means that the high damage will be there forever due to the in game system that spam atks will get lower after awhile, with spam combos like ^Combos, with the only cp you have u can only make one combo set which thus lower your damage if combo are spam, of course it is a excellent build for dps player like me but to get it back to high damage is difficult. Would definitely recommend ^Combos build if you're aiming for high dps, but for those who made a mistake about personal stats without crits, or those who prefer stabilize damage i would recommend my build for them. putting it this way would be easier, Str crit build aims for high damage on combos whereas str dex build aims for medium damage with mana regen for combo spams.
     
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  6. Jinah

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    Good guide, however unless dex adds the same amount of attack as str then it would be more beneficial for str dex build. Still great effort you put in (y)
     
  7. Grievous

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    thnkas for sharing, maybe in the near future Dex type might be able to stand with STR & CRIT type swordies.
     
  8. Sigur

    Sigur Member

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    Thank you!
     
  9. Sigur

    Sigur Member

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    Thank you I hope so too!
     
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  10. Jynuz

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    the smash skill?? really can be use in 2h sword dude??
     
  11. OmniBeta

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    I can mention that yes, Martial skills can be used with ANY Weapon (you just get a dmg reduction of the skill without Knuckles).

    Also, would it be positive to use a Feather Cape slot with G.Skel xtal for this build?
     
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    That's 800 raw aspd. It's ideal for any build regardless if you're pure str, crit, speed, or mp regen.
     
  13. Impact

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    "This build benefits for those who prefer raw damage than high burst crit damage, many people would say that if you can have high damage why bother a build like mine, however high burst damage doesnt means that the high damage will be there forever due to the in game system that spam atks will get lower after awhile, with spam combos like ^Combos, with the only cp you have u can only make one combo set which thus lower your damage if combo are spam, of course it is a excellent build for dps player like me but to get it back to high damage is difficult. Would definitely recommend ^Combos build if you're aiming for high dps, but for those who made a mistake about personal stats without crits, or those who prefer stabilize damage i would recommend my build for them. putting it this way would be easier, Str crit build aims for high damage on combos whereas str dex build aims for medium damage with mana regen for combo spams."

    Good build. But from what u had mentioned. Let compared slightly between some things.
    CRT 30 points = 10 rate
    DEX 30 points = 30 hit, 30 atk
    Critical do not miss on enemy's Flee Stats. Only evasion from an enemy can evade our attack. And evasion will evade anything. But since you went 30% of yours stats into DEX, it would be 55 DEX . (meaning your atk will be very stable and yet higher than average CRT type 2h swordy). Your hit points is around 120 with this build. While my critical rate using just 30 CRT, will generate 50 critical rate. With astute i goes 75% crit rate. Don't ask me how i count it, there plenty of infos laying in this forum and infos from iruna. They are using the same system.

    I have 1160 atk speed, after using trigger slash i have 50mp recovery per hit(i only take 1.1 - 1.3sec to gain 2mp bar). 815mp here. I never run out of mp and never once bother to use charge in boss fights.

    My atk can be boost to 930-950 if i want to(just throw in a stats reset), with all the equipments i have. But i find pure str with combo spam is not ideal for me. I hate the skill call CHARGE. Your build is ok, it more of a medium damage build and a jack of all trade style.

    I think people need to know, playing this class (2h swordy) have no ideal build. Everyone have their own ideal build. Being optimal and ideal with what you have will definitely boost your dps and performance.

    The damage-per-sec difference from COMBOS and SIGUR is minimal. It not that great of a diff comparing to 3 digits dmg vs 5 digits damage.

    "spam atks will get lower after awhile, with spam combos like ^Combos"

    Note to make here. Combo spamming is not really non stop spamming, it require a balance party so the damage dont go crappy. Im doing averaege 20-35k per combo spam. If i spam non stop, my combo won't even cross 8k damage. It about control..

    I never shared my 2h build anymore because i think my style is too expensive but i don't understand why people still want to have a build like mine (especially my guildmate who always wondering why my dps is so high)and they can't really afford those items that i am equipping.. it will greatly affect the performance of the toon.

    Good guide.
     
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  14. makOi

    makOi Elite Member Elite Member

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    To avoid confusion by means of combo spam. Not literally spamming it each time your combo ends. Normal attacks plays a role IF you want to get your maximum dmge output with your combos.
     
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    All my friends who are really good with their toon(when I say good, they have at least +11 and some decked out gears and items/xtal) like the forum build. It interesting, fresh, novel. I especially like combo spamming. If the damage don't wear off that easily. It can easily be the best build. And hope skill animation be faster. People like kiritos right? Multi hitting skills need to have faster animation. The current motion +1% items sucks. Need 100% increase. And that's real fun.

    How insane to have a 10 skills combo in the future and u see ur self wiping out a boss in 1 combo. Lol. I know there are already people doing it. But they killing weaker boss. It's like I go to forest wolf.

    Thanks for making these build. Guess I need to complete my 1h build asap. Got plenty of cool ideas.
     
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    makOi Elite Member Elite Member

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    Good thing for you and your friends wear +11 (im assuming theyre playing it right coz before ive seen lots of players @55 cap having those overupgrade items and got wreck by non+.) Looking forward to that 1h guide. Makes me wonder what are those cool ideas :)
     
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    I will rush my guide asap.
    On that +11 Vs +0 weapon comparison. Let be honest. The one who know how to spam wins dps. Lol. You don't need super items to be good. U need a proper build and know how u want to perform. I had seen enough funny players spam till no mana and normal attack for the rest. Yeah, they are overly upgraded. Lol. Agreed. I calculated all stats and calculate all the potential my char can perform. Never do a lame upgrade that boost performance by like 10%.
    Like mage who boost their mark to 1100 but almost no different from 1000matk.
     
  18. Sigur

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    Yes smash skills can be used in 2h or any wep, it's basically like using your barehand. It really depends on your choice of equip, you will have high aspd either way.
     
  19. Sigur

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    It's hard to explain logically, however I've used my lvl 60 str crit build to fight volg, forestia and ooze to compare with my str dex, and I can say str crit helps a lot in forestia to avoid misses from my personal experience. However on volg and ooze my str dex actually finishes faster, yes I did use the same combo set, my str crit reaches about 18k astute whereas my str dex only reaches around 9k, but overall I've dealt damage with my str dex than my str crit faster by finishing the boss faster. My normal Astute without crit reaches at only 3k however still able to deal 3k is part of a potential damage, I can also boost my crit rates using astute and sonic blade.
     
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  20. Sigur

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    I'm not saying we are literally spamming combos without attacking, normal attacks for this build is important too because of mp regen and prevent combo damage from wearing off. What I meant about combo spam is how fast you dealt enough normal attacks to spam another combo again, that said normal attack with no crits are equally important, I've compare with most str crit players but still dealing damage more and faster than them, but str crit build can allow you to see a more favorable digits
     

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