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A lot of ppl tried to follow Kronus's guide on how to kill Volgagon but fail to do so :(

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by S@Ble, Dec 4, 2019.

  1. S@Ble

    S@Ble Well-Known Member

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    Ahhh,after Kronus posted a new way to easy farm Volgagon ...I see a lot of people are trying it out including me ( XD) but may be one thing they didnot realize yet is that Kronus team is OP.

    1) Volgagon resis aliment if you keep using it. You need to rotate. Only way you dont get resistance is to fast kill it in each phrase. I got 30-45 second resistance on Phrase 3 coz my team mate cannot fk it in time.
    (and some CF are crazy spaming all aliement!!! and boss keep resisting all of it, have some class and time your aliement pls so tank can interup an importance skill...i dont need boss to be interup while it just walking behind tank)

    2) unless you can hold it in the spot like Kronus did, knub tank without that wave skill is not an ideal pt. My team's tank unable to regen mp fast enought and when boss move to other spots ,he isnot fast enough to interup. ( I suspect he doesnot have shield cannon as well)


    It is my opinion but after about 3 hr of testing Kronus's way in a different parties, unless your teammates are OP it wont work.

    I have been in a party where tank got dc , another cf got kill again and again. Only a mage who is suppose to be dps and Me(cf) have to solo phrase 3 togther. We ended up dead in phrase 4 becuase there is no lurer.
    (I just switch to a cf today and I still have to tank with my 8k hp cf... ;^;)

    of cause if your party is OP then there would be no problem becuase after the end of aliement rotation, the next phrase will begin and it will reset the aliment resistance again.
     
  2. ẜἸoωer

    ẜἸoωer Well-Known Member

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    Kronus did say that its possible through coordinated teamwork. As much as I love to party with random player, you need to have good rapport and conmunication which doesn't always happen. :(
     
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    S@Ble Well-Known Member

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    only good communication br
    only good communicstion between a cf and tank is eoungh. Dps just has to fast kill it. With 5 aliments rotation you have a window of 25-30 second to kill it in each phrase only. I dont count Jevalin coz it has a very low chance. Shield and knub skill has about 5 sec resistance as well. After the first 30 seconds , boss will start to resist aliments and start to run around again. So unless the dps is so OP, It wont work. The best time I see for a pt of 4 (not my pt though...someone post on internet) is about 1 min.
     
  4. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    You don't have to rely much on archer alone for Ailment.

    ✓We have dual wield spinning slash for blind and phantom slash for freeze.

    ✓Knuckle tank has earthbind for stop and chariot for fear. Heavy smash if for Lethargy if archer use snipe.

    ✓Mages with dagger sub has skills like poison knife and the skill that also slow. Staff's javelin at level 5 has 80% chance Ailment but too low as to how toram rng works, it won't occur much.

    Don't stick on archer alone to do ailment, not only archer do ailments imo.

    You can kill the boss even if it wil took a bit of time if it does't do anything for the rest of the run.
     
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    S@Ble Well-Known Member

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    it true but I rarely see them use it mage usually go with shield though @-@

    My best run is with 1 kuckle tank , 1 Cf full aliments , 1 SC full aliments and one mage lure. Boss got interup all the time and cf and sc was switching aliment as well. The main atk was Sc while Cf rotate aliments around. But if CF got resis then SC fill in the place. Very nice and positive team. hard to find :3

    The boss got lose from time to time but 80% of the time we were able to pin it down.
     
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    Halberd's Dazzle via Dive Impact, and 1H/MD with Ether Flare for Ignite and Element Slash for Weaken (although at 10% activation at Lv. 10 without advantageous Element because target's Neutral…), and Dizzy with Meteor Breaker… what else?

    Seriously, really hurts that we can't see which Ailments are inflicted by allies on the target are… or could we? I have Effects turned off for everyone (aside myself… seriously, ASSOBIMO? Why not let us turn off our own Skill Effects Display? And the animated drops too while we're at it)……
     
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    It might be a good idea to use mind eye tag in short combo for ailments or interrupt. It'll stop the combo, lets you know the resist timer and you can move to another interrupt or ailments.
     
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  8. Kaejuda

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    all of the gears needs to fit into place.

    the tank has to time their interrupt by atleast 1 second tick,since the boss can jump in 1 second and ruins everything.

    the ailment givers need to time their ailments and manage their mp rate correctly,if one ailment slips for too long,the boss might execute a jump and ruins everything.

    the dps need to step up their game,support both the tank and the ailment giver by holding their own ground,and do fast enough dps to decimate the boss hp bar before it has a chance to retaliate while it's still in a stun-lock state.

    it needed alot of luck too,since the boss might as well jumped right when phase 3 started and no one can catch up.
     
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    network delay is another issues.

    I prefer P1 and P2 just go for normal HIT and RUN, then P3 only try the lock method. P4 just let him stuck on the root will do.
     
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    We managed to get 3 minutes 35 second run with some luck. Knuck tank, 6 ailment bow, ths dps. Staff shield with fire javelin. Got lucky with some resist interval and javelin proc with the boss not jumping. Not really super powerful ths either and staff is just npc lil empress. Luck is really what decide the really low time. If the boss start phase 3 with the jump...
     
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    it's 75% at lv10. (100% with MD)
    at lv5 it is less and way too unreliable.
     
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    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    Ohhh yes you are right. Just checked skill thread and it's 7.5*(skill level). Level 5 just give 37% chance ooof.
     
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    40% depended on luck here yeah,not all bow skills has 100% ailment too.

    other ailment givers can't seem to support the bow too much either,since it might interrupt their timing process/wasting an ailment for nothing.


    oh btw it seems that tumble affected the tank's flinch time here.

    if you tumble the boss before the tank use flinch then both the tank flinch and tumble time turns to 3s cooldown.

    so
    don't tumble the boss with impact if you want the tank to have 3 interrupt.
     
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    who needs a team when you can solo!!!
    jk XD
     
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    Just talk with ur pt mates, be sure of each one know what to do and all will be easy ToramOnline_2019-12-04-20-31-45.png
     
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    You're definitely overestimating the brain capabilities of random people. Also your party is OP :eek:
     
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    XD sorry my bad, but is not about brain capabilities lol(sometimes yes) is about comunication and team work, this 2 things are hard to get if u run with ramdons sadly and the main reason of it is cause toram players are very used to killing bosses without teamwork, because those bosses are gay in low modes. that leads to no communication there and when they meet volgagon they cry and blame others endind in disband pts and people crying in a corner xD
     
  19. Zufeng

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    Main problem for me is my phone is crap so i can't chat in battle.
    Tho if someone tell me where to go,i usually follow
     
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    This. My main problem with Toram app right now, that keyboard lag happens after 10 minites and all throughout. I can't even respond to teammates, but I do cooperate with commands.

    I've mostly been with a lot of random parties. From what I've observed its more of uncooperative random players are either:
    A) New to the boss/experimenting with boss mechanics
    B) Focused on getting a top rank
    C) Disregards roles in the party and Rush Attack
    D) Panics when given instructions.
     

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