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AMPR???

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by ViPR, Mar 29, 2016.

  1. ViPR

    ViPR Elite Observer Elite Member

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    1. What is base and max ampr?
    2. Does Martial Skills: Aggravate give +5 ampr for all auto atks or only when it procs?
    3. Does Aggravate only give +5 ampr at level 10 or what?
    4. Why do people say DW's have better ampr than the rest of the classes?
    5. Is ampr a flat number that correlates directly with mp
    ex. ampr of 20 means that it takes 5 auto atks for a full 100mp bar???(20x5=100)
    6. Can trigger slash break the limit of max ampr???
     
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  3. Caskadia

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    1. IIRC, base ampr is 12. Afaik, ampr has no max. However, after doing a quick calculation, a person can get up to 66 ampr as of now.
    - fan sword w/silver roar xstal (+7)
    - marble shield (+3)
    - ooze armor w/silver roar xtal (+8)
    - flower headband w/silver roar (+9)
    - swordsman ring w/eerie xtal (+15)
    - base ampr (+12)
    - trigger sword (max lv10) (+12)
    total: 66 ampr

    I'm not calculating the ampr given by sober analysis + short rest, with these gear on. My guess is the ampr would be around 70 then.

    2. After doing some tests, aggravate seems to be counted as another auto attack now (it used to not be counted as one). From what I can tell, the extra attack's ampr is equivalent to doing another auto attack (not necessarily only +5 ampr).

    3. refer to 2.

    4. DW's auto attacks are considered 3 attacks in 1, I believe. It's ampr regain for a single auto attack is the equivalent of doing 3 auto attacks for any other weapon. However, the animation for DW auto attacks is quite long comparatively.

    5. Ampr increases depending on the amount of max mp you have. At 1 mp bar, it takes nearly 8-10 hits for a full bar. At 11 bars, it takes about 4-5 hits.

    6. Trigger slash adds an addition 12 ampr. Assuming there is no max ampr, then it will "break" the limit.
     
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    I thought trigger doubled ampr or does It only double base ampr(that would make sense)
     
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    It uses to double the total.

    Now it only doubles the base.
     
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    Hmmmm sly asobimo:cool::cool::cool:
     
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    If it were possible to hit 100ampr would that be 1auto atk for 1mp bar
     
  8. Caskadia

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    Yes. Its already possible to hit 50+ ampr, so two auto attacks equals one mp bar.
     
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    Is this correct?
    (12ampr(base)+ 20ampr(Sober Analysis lvl10)+ 12(Trigger Slash))x3(Dual Wield)=132mp per auto atk...right???
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    Yes, assuming your max mp is high enough to allow sober analysis/short rest to equate to 20 ampr.
     
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    Sober is 20
    Yes
     
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    Mugami Well-Known Member

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    Honestly tho. No point to ampr gear. The skills are enough. You can spam infinite combo trick.
     
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    Completely agree with this no point to ampr gear especially for dw. But yea unless ur 2h or something don't waste time on it imo.
     
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    Theres higher ampr potential right? 66 isnt maximum (not counting dw)
     
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    bump for people looking
     
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    No if all the gears are 2slotted then they could get higher
     
  17. Sidis

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    What's the formula for ampr to MP? I never worried about it to much cuz I played a dw for a long time :D
     
  18. Kazuue

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    If you have 20ampr, that means you regen 20mp/attack. DW's have a special atk animation that makes them atk 3 (or 4 idr) times in an auto atk.
     
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  19. Sidis

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    How much ampr do I get from my MP?
     
  20. Kazuue

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    Er I've heard you gain more mp/atk if you have more maxMp. Ampr can be achieved by using skills (sober) and equipment/crystal (eerie).
     
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