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Base Resistances?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Rizer phoenix, Jan 12, 2020.

  1. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Do players already have any base phy+mag resistance?
    If so,
    1)how much?
    2)Is there any cap for them?
    3) how can we increase em with exception of sword (n maybe arm in some cases)?
    (Question with 1h Mtl>Vit tank in mind)
     
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    resistance stats on equipment, Physical Shield and Magic Shield skills

    resistance can go aboce 100% but does not provide 100% damage reduction.
    the total resistance is applied in fragments of 50% max. (so 100% resistance provides 75% damage reduction. 50% of first damage, then 50% of remaining damage.)

    refinement of armor, add gear and shield also provides up to 15% damage reduction each, but does not stack with resistance. (it is applied separately, like defense and other damage reducing effects.)
     
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    1. I'm pretty sure we don't have any base resistance. Refining shield, armor, and add gives 1% resistance (phys, mag, frac) each for every refinement level, though I'm not sure if they stack with phys/mag resistance.
    2. No.
    3. There are phys and magic resistance food buffs. One of the best resistance armor is Lil Emp Garb (except for water attacks). For ring there's Dark Talisman (Resist). A lot of addgears gives resistance, such as Circle of Order. There are also xtals that gives resistance like Seele or Yashiro Mom. Protection, Aegis, and the passives Force and Magical Shield gives resistance.
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Thank you *^*)/!
    That cleared my remaining questions ><)!
     
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    is it worth to refine an armor or add gear to S rather than B?
     
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    If you're very rich but have no brain, yeah.
     
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    Unless if you are tank, there is no point doing so
    Boss will kept 1 shotting you anyway if your health is below 10k
     
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    +B is enough even for tanks imo except shield. Dps gets 1 hit by boss anyway and most dps only have 6k hp as average without investing vit and orn xtal(relies on food buff).
     
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    the difference between B and S is 2%, but the success rate drops way more (even with all possible upgrades, S is still only 1% success)
     
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    i don't. my armor is at B and i usually forget to refine my add gear XD
     
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    haha i guess i will leave em to B coz i am not a tank :D
     
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    how many resist we got for protection and aegis from lv1 - 10 ?
     
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    +15 and -30 at lv1
    +30 and -15 at lv10
    when using both at the same time it's -15 at lv1 and +15 at lv10
     
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    thanks, but what about when u casting both at lv5. i told a random tanker on venena to not cast both when u have the skill at lv5. how much the -resist that my pt will have ?
     
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    -7 i guess...
     
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    Tbh resistance and hp can’t save you as a tank later on. The number of fractionals you have to deal with is insane, sanctuary won’t help you either. Although resistance can help your true defense would be your knowing the boss patterns and knowing what you can and cannot counter, some bosses like venena you can lazily spam skills while bosses like finstern you will have to be on the move constantly. So with that +b is achievable and there is no need going beyond that tbh, skill trumps equipment any-day that’s for tanks and dps.
     
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    Finstern isn't that bad, really, all you have to do is to use magic:wall so the squirrels wont spawn the fractional spikes. Magic wall stargem is also really cheap at 400k. Here's stargems that's great for a lot of stuff:
    -all knuck interrupts, especially sonic wave. If you happen to need the most reliable cc you can just switch to knuckles. Sonic wave is still a great option for long range interrupt for sword tank.
    -sonic blade(for 1h tank), a replacement for shukuchi if you're using power wave
    -magic javelin, just switch up the weapon element for the ailments you want
    -magic wall, can save you from annoying mobs

    For unpredictable battles with lots of aoes, I use a combo of elegant poise>berserk(save) >warcry/spirited dance(swift) >p. Def. Except for the first hit on elegant poise, for the whole duration of the combo you have invincibility frames. If you have nature's wonder you can switch up berserk to get the heal while keeping up the invincibility combo. The flaw is that dependent on the target's range and divided up for your nearby members so I'm not taking it for now. Heal can be pretty slow so cspd xtals and spell headphone can considerably speed up the heal.

    Yes there are some aoes in which you need to try to dodge them instead of taking it all, but for pure tanks, HP and resistance is still the way to go. Gears setup are still a great deal especially, for harder bosses. Unarmed tank will have the best survivability but I still like 1h sword the best because you can get a lot of useful skills for versatility.

    My philosophy of making a tank is the laziest you can get on the defensive end the better tank build it is. With defense taken care of, you can focus on helping out your teammates like giving recoveries, countering dangerous patterns and have more window to prorate.
     
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    I intend to learn magic wall for that reason, but I can’t recall if the diameter changes with lv, I know it change for me but lv I can’t recall, can you clarify for me? And on the note of stargems, I am the last person to buy them, I am not rich to spend money on that. I rather buy xtals tbh, maybe if I have nothing else to spend my spina on yeah but ftw I rather do sp management and tbh a tank build has a lot of free sp well for me anyways mines a knuc tank
     
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    Magic wall doesn't get more range with higher level but it does increase the number of hits=longer duration. 5 hits at level 1, then the hit increased by 1 for every 2 levels. Lvl2-3 would be 6 hits, 7 hits for lvl 4-5 and so on. Lvl1 is still decent and you only need 400k since it's one of those underrated utility skills. Most tanks uses expensive stargems such as provoke and protection that exceeds 1m per stargems but they're a waste of money really aside from sp saving purpose.

    I will never have enough sp for my tank, so stargems are a good investment especially for these utility skills. I even skimped out on the resistance skills of the shield tree to make some spare sp for skills like backstep, power wave, impact and finale. Even my p. Def is only at lvl 1 because I don't really use it for the healing nor the aggro. Money wise its still a better investment compared to getting 2 slotted gears just to get some extra aggro, or maxhp though they also worth it if you have the money.
     
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    Oh ok well for me I only need 1 sp to get magic wall since I invested sp to get impact and finale, thanks for the info I have 13 points extra so far and I haven’t capped as yet so yeah I am careful with my distribution at this point. Not a fan of the dancer skills to tank with tbh , I probably just can’t get the hang of it as yet maybe .
     

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