Best skills, equipment for Knuckle build max Agi and dex!!!!!!!

Hi, im just new in this game and i try build KNU max agi dex.
With me, I dont like high dmg just want dmg stable and fast atk for recover mp to stun,tumble,flinch.... the boss, i believe that is the role of a knucker. Hope U all expert knuckle give some advises about using the skills effective with this build

 

1.) What level are you?
2.) How much funding do you have/are willing to spend? As there are cheap ways to get you started if you don't have much funding, and more long lasting solutions if you do have some funding.
3.) Are you okay some tumble/flinch/stun unavailable equipment occasionally?

 

Thanks for ur reply sir
1.i just played 5days and now im lvl 150( still goin up)
2.spina is a problem, hope u recommend the cheapest way possible and effective for now. And ill upgrade step by step.
3. Yea i aggee that cuz notthing can say 100% perfectly.
Sry about my bad English, hope u all experts give me advises

 

Most of best gear for knukle are from event -.- like toy gun.
With Halloween even you can get a high atk knukle, but other stats not really usefull.
Low price knukle and still not bad is mortal katar ( drop from grim ).
You need aim for physical pierce to do good dmg.

Read this thread :
https://toramonline.com/index.php?t...s-get-them-now-for-mainly-new-knuckers.48488/

 

Thank for you reply but like i said i not aim for high dmg, what i aim are stabe dmg, fast ampr and "Break Armor" boss.
Btw, i notice that knuck skills have:
- Shell break 25% armor break at lv10
- Heavy smash add power+500 on target "armor break"
- Strong Chase Attack add 10% "armor break" to Aggravate.
###So are there status "Armor break" % on equipment? , and if have the cap % of this status.? #####
HOPE ALL EXPERT HELP ME, SORRY BOUT MY BAD ENGLISH xD

 

there is no armor break on equipement, only physical pierce ( ignore part of physical defense).
There is no cap on armor break, as archer have a skill with 100% armor break.
Knukle really need more armor break -.- to compensate low atk.
Damage will never be stable on toram, even with 100% stab, you can do from 1 to 10 -.-
But you can still up stability.
Grim's mortal katar have crit rate +75 ( so 100% crit rate with base crit rate) and +25 crit dmg, but it has -50% dmg on dark monsters. Anyway, this let you concentrate on atk and stability for armor, additional, and special.

from coryn club.

Things that will make your dmg not stable :
- guard of enemy
- def of enemy
- proration
- greeze/ miss critical
- stab of your weapon
- enemy buffs and debuffs
- multiplicator of skills that are random in a range

 

As the op doesn't seem to consider having optimized damage, just get decoy shot, recovery, and kairiki ranshin, you'll get enough mp reserve to to those useless interrupts and have a stable, low damage

 

Ty for ur reply experts
A bit feel sad cuz no have armor break stat on eq. So now i can understand that why u guys choose crt to build.
So can give me more advises about:
1/Build Crt type
- str up crt dmg? and crt up crt rate % so Is there formula calculate that dmg?rate?
2/ build aspd the formula is when have 1100+ aspd with 180aspd=1% motion spd and cap is 50% is that right?
3 /build flee / evasion is there any formula A flee =? B dodge%.
Hope u guys help me

 

1/ str > dex for dmg
2/ no cap. try rush + swift, you'll see it goes faster.
3/ dodge useless. Evasion cap at 75% easely to reach.

 

1) 5 STR stat increase 1% Critical Damage, 3.4 CRI stat give 1% critical rate ( Base Critical Rate is 25% if you Sixth stat is CRI )
2) Yes
3) Flee and Evasion is separate. Flee formula is Player LVL + AGIx1.75 + 30 if equip light armor. Evasion is just stack up like 10% + 10% + blablabla
Both CAP is 75%, but with Assassin skill dodge CAP can up to 85%.
If you want high flee(Dodge) , you can learn
Assassin Skill - Evasion give +10% and +10 ( with dagger +20) on flee,
Foresight increase dodge CAP from 75% > 85%
Learn dancer skill Fairy Dance reduce enemy accuracy , no one know the exact reduce rate
Get a PET with the Blind Magic skill that same like smoke dust reduce enemy accuracy.

STR give no additional damage on Knuc, thus if you invest too much on STR your Base ATK will become low and may dealt only 1-0 damage on high DEF mobs.
But unless you challenge high difficulty mode boss, else not much high def boss that make your ATK become 0-1.
So most brawler will go for AGI+255 > STR+200 > DEX+40 before the Limit break. ( BTW I'm a AGI>DEX)
After limit break not sure, maybe AGI+510 > DEX 245 will greater than AGI>STR, but it's still too early to discuss about this.

 

In terms of weapons, the best brawler weapon for a while (outside of a full elem set) now has been Master's Tonfa (http://coryn.club/item.php?id=3171) but other knuckles are slowly catching up such as this one from current halloween event (http://coryn.club/item.php?id=4166), and it doesn't have the -25 crit penalty too.

The Tonfa is a bit hard to farm so I reckon you could start with Rescue Gloves now, and then fill up the rest of the gear with 100% crit as the 1st priority, followed by other key stats like aspd, mp, hp, ampr.

Your choice of sub weapon is also rather important too. My main choices are semi-tank/shield (with SP investment into shield skills like pdef and guardian) and ranged playstyle/MD (using Magic Warrior skills, powerwave and maximize)

 

To the OP, i would second the recommendation for Mortal Katar, since you don't need to think about crit anymore in the rest of your gear, so can freely focus on other preferred stats (and not necessarily max damage)

 

got a agi/dex dodge brawler.
What i have noticed, is dodge is useless.

Btw, my gear is this :
mortal katar + marchitar
heaven feather garb boss + usami or assassin garb ( if more pierce needed)
cat tail + gespenst 2 ( for mp and cast speed )
potum talisman + venena
Porcupine quills shield ( for atk, crit dmg, physical pierce )
Got around 1800 dodge, 30% evasion ( got assassin passives) and i dodge nothing lol
1900 atk without buffs 2700 atk speed 100% stability ( from str and xtall)

 

Assassin Garb ( +15 dodge,+15 evasion )
Marchitar ( +15% dodge )
Cat Tail ( +15% dodge )
Potum Talisman (+12% dodge)
Foresight ( Dodge CAP 75>85)
Evasion ( +10% dodge , +10 dodge because not using dagger)
total dodge+% = 52%
total dodge+ = 25


Player base flee calculation for light armor
= LV*1.25 + AGI*1.75 + 30
= (195*1.25) + (265*1.75) + 30
= 243.75 + 463.75 + 30
= 737(round down)

total flee
= 737 * 1.52 + 25
= 1142

maybe you can share with us how you get 1800 flee/dodge for the build you show.

 

FYI, agi-dex brawler with MD sub kicking ass

 

I'm also using MD as sub with AGI/DEX and my opinion this is the best for DPS type brawlers. I already have dagger and shield AGI/STR DPS brawler (all 195), but their overall damage is not comparable to my MD with the same equips. Only a few place where they can be better (bosses who don’t move). Even if you go with full ampr gears with dagger or shield you can't spam Chariot like MD users. After the latest skill balance update the cast time for mp recharge is greatly reduced by dex.

 

oh, why dont you try AGI/STR using MD sub, i'm sure you'll get higher damage than AGI/DEX
What i'm trying to say that, the ATK that you got from DEX is so fckin low that you'll consider it thrice when you try to calculate the damage. I would say the otherwise if we get atleast 1 ATK each DEX we invest, but as you know....

 

I'm using dex because of mp charge cast time not for atk or stability. Without dex, mp charge is 4 sec with MD but with 200+ dex its 2-2.5 sec. That helps a lot to not stuck in boss fights. Damage is not all.

 

well, you only need to reach 1k CSPD right? Gespent II will take care of the thing and you'll be able to invest all of the rest into STR (as long as you didnt use any -CSPD), unless you couldn't afford to use Gespent II because of the limited slot or whatever the problem. Sorry making the thread out of topic but i gotta say what i think right.
edit: forgot to say that you need to max the Magic Warrior Mastery skill, tho i'm sure you'll max it since it giving back the negative ATK%

On the other hand you can still get accuracy and small amount of stability from DEX (tho if i recall accuracy wouldnt do much on NM and ulti)

 

I'm not sure for 1000 CSPD part thats ASPD instead. Gespents II is not worthy if you are using Toy Gun or Mortal Katar. But maybe there are some CSPD gears or xtals wich allows you to put some point to STR.
VS high level nm or ulti bosses dps brawlers are useless if you dont have toy gun.