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Discussion in 'Toram Online Game Guides' started by Dino, Aug 13, 2015.

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  1. Dino

    Dino Well-Known Member

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    After reading some posts , can someone tell me the original pots for w.staff? For arms , I know it is impossible to make pot 50 without negative stats . What about weapons ?
     
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    makOi Elite Member Elite Member

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    Thanks you very much for this.
    Youve been very helpful!
     
  3. Dino

    Dino Well-Known Member

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    I am glad ^_^ .
    When I was still an armatuer in blacksmith , I struggled and was so frustrated that I rage quited 3 times from bs. I had no idea how to increase profiency and added the wrong stats . However , hoping to spread my name wide through armours , I got back up and work towards my goal once again .
    After knowing a few things about blacksmith , I hope to help people who wanted bs as a career and not going through the suffering like I did .
    Remember ! Bs will always be rewarding if you follow the correct path .
     
  4. May<3

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    I have a smith that's at lvl 16 prof right now and anything I can make, it says it's "too simple to acquire any proficiency". I don't have the tech stats yet, what can I do in this case to continue levelling my prof?

    btw, great guide! thanks
     
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  5. Kimesato

    Kimesato Elite Member Elite Member

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    Sorry to intrude into your thread Dino, but ima add my lil input into it.

    1st. For all BS other than DEX Smiths, you only need to add 30 Points into Tech to reach Dificulty 30. Since lvl 15 is easy to achive as a normal smith. Once you reach Dificulty 55 you can reset your stats back to max 161 Vit/Int/Str/Agi, since you will be left with 40 Difficulty, from there you work your way up back to 55 Dificulty.

    2nd. Also Dino sorry, but You don't loose Proficiency from reseting your tech. You only loose Dificulty level.

    3rd and Last.
    If anyone needs any advices lol, ask away ;). People are here to help, if one is confused, just make a thread, if you don't understand what a player is explaining on their OP.
     
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  6. Dino

    Dino Well-Known Member

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    It looks like you are unclear with what I wrote .
    1st . I don't know why you state out this since it is not connected to any mistake in the guide . However , 30 tech only raise 15 profiency . And from what you said ,which is level 15 actual profiency , you will only get a total of profiency level 30 and not 35 . And there is some mistake in what you said . -This is still not confirm yet.- You said that resetting stats and put 161 vit right? It is likely impossible since resetting stats take away stat points . I am level 55 and had done all stat point emblem available now . Total stat points that could be added to is 158 vit.Why not 161? Because I resetted my stats point twice . And I believe it minus some stat point if I reset stats.Next , difficulty is different from profiency level . From your text , you said that to raise your difficulty to 55? You can't see you difficulty level because that is not what let you able to make that arm . Difficulty just show the success rate of the arm . So please change it to profiency level to avoid new bs confusion .
    2nd. You can't lose profiency level from resetting your tech . By what you said , so you mean that if I am a pure tech which 161 tech . -80 profiency level And reset my stat to pure vit. Does that mean that I will have pure vit and 80 profiency level even if there is no tech now? Moreover , just as I said , you can't change difficulty level .
    For example
    There is arm A and arm B that require profiency level 35 to make it .
    However arm A has difficult 1 and arm B has difficulty 50.
    And your profiency level is 40.
    Which arm will you get more success rate?
    Of course is arm A.
    This just explain to you that difficulty only tell you how difficult it is to make a successful arm. Not telling you if you are or not able to make the arm.
    This could confuse newb a lot .Please refrain from using difficulty.
    3rd . Thanks for your help anyway . I am glad someone out there is willing to help bs as well. And even take time to point out mistakes.
     
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  7. Dino

    Dino Well-Known Member

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    Haha xD thanks for your compliment . However , it is impossible that any item you can make is unable to give you any exp anymore . Try making other category items such as knuckle or armour. My friend reach lvl 19 profiency level by killing ruin rat and crafting with what it drop .
    You can find ruin rat at underground CH.
    Kill Gs boss and go deep in . Than go left and you will see ruin rat .
    Sorry .. Bad at pointing out direction.
     
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  8. Kimesato

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    Note : You are right I wrote 35 instead of 30 xD, Sorry lol kakakaka.

    1st Point.
    I have reset stats 4 times, and I haven't lost a single Stat point bro, don't know what u talking about.

    2nd Point.
    Proficiency and Difficulty are 2 different things mate.
    Proficiency is the level of your Black smithing and Difficulty is just a name given to your amount of points required for crafting gear. = If you lvl your Proficiency to 15 you will have 15 Difficulty.
    Since you are not a Dex smith you have no bonus difficulty. So Your current proficiency becomes your current difficulty points. = Lvl 15 Prof. = 15 Difficulty.
    In this statement If you added 30 Tech = 15 Dificulty points would add to your current 15 making it a total of 30. So you could continue crafting and lvling your Proficiency to 30.

    3rd Point.
    If you are a Pure Tech smith you would have at Lvl 1 Proficiency = 32 Dificulty Available, which would allow you to craft as much as you want, and lvl up to 80 if you are patient. If you reset and change to Vit, you will keep your Lvl 80 Prof = 80 Dificulty, but you will loose the 32 Difficulty from Tech.

    As of Personal Experience, I am stuck at Lv83 Proficiency Pure Dex Smith. and at Lv67 Pure Vit Smith. Lv71 Tech Smith. so Don't know if my experience works here or not ;).
     
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  9. Lnlyboix

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    1st Point.
    There is a chance to lose stat points. Notice how I said Chance? It is not a garente that you will lose stat points. I reset my stat points on two different characters, One of them lost 2 stat points and the other didn't lose anything.

    2nd Point.
    Kimesato is right on this. If you were to remove stats from your tech then you will lose 'difficulty' points however your proficiency stays the same. They are two different stats which you can see. Skills>Use Ex Skills> Smith Skills > Bottom left is your prof. When you craft an equipment, you will notice a number that is required to craft such item which would look something like this. "125/45" this is what everyone calls 'difficulty' stat. They are two different things.

    This is just from what iv experienced.
     
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  10. Kimesato

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    Thats some really fked up stuff you know? Cus, I have 7 chars and I have reset them all, many times, My main 4, Tech smith 3 times, Dex Smith... dammm... Dn't wana remember how many.... and the other smiths well you count them.

    Have never lost a single stat point. We might need more research on this.
     
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  11. Lnlyboix

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    I know... all i want is my 2 stat points back :(:( haha
     
  12. Dino

    Dino Well-Known Member

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    For f
    1 st point.
    Yes your right . I confirmed it today . Stats reset does not take away our stats point. So .. The conclusion might be the emblem stats gift .
    2nd point.
    Surprisingly , I was mistaken about tech not adding difficulty . I will agreed with you this part . However , I doesnt agree with what you define difficulty as. There is still many unknown or misunderstanding about this. Thus, ya .... We should research this.
    3rd point . No idea what you are saying. Why would prof level 1 = 32 difficulty when your a pure tech?My pure tech give 78 difficulty and profiency level 1. Please explain clearly so I can improve my guide.


    Will rewrite guide and add stats upgrade pots information after exam.
    THANKS Lnlyboix and Kimesato. Is always great to know more .
    Hope you guys will point out mistakes in the future and solve the bs mystery together with me so that we could stop the confusion for newbs.
     
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  13. JimLe

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    I just want to confirm if this is true. Lucifere Blacksmith guide said "Dex:Increase potential on bows,swords,staffs and knuckles".
     
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  14. Kimesato

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    1.Yea Difficulty is just an Algorithm number to define how far on the crafting tier you can go, that's it xD. Apart from the fact the higher your Diff, the more proficient you are in not failing your craft.

    3.FK ME FK ME, why do I keep making this dumb math mistakes lol, what type of fking asian am I lol xDD.
    Yes you are right, fk my life, I made a small mistake ;). 161 = 80 Difficulty xD. I have 151 Difficulty with my Tech Smith.

    No Son, Dex only increases Difficulty, it does increases Potential for Bows and 1hs. But not for Staffs and Knuckles.
     
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    makOi Elite Member Elite Member

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    Btw the stats were adding to our items. lets say you added +5 int/4% int on both wep and armor. Will this inc your crafted item potential? Coz atm with full stat 161. The highest pot per success craft ive seen is +17.
     
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    What is the use of 2nd level crafts anvil?
     
  17. Faisal

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    Hi i have a tec character lv41 with full stats on tec and i want to creat AWOSME Vswords please help me dino and tell me what to do exactly because i want to reset my stats and i want the profancy to be for vswords
     
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  18. Kimesato

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    First things first you failed your Blacksmith University Test. You don't use Tech for crafting swords ;). For 1hs you use Dex and for 2hs Str.
     
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  19. Faisal

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    Explain more please how mich str and tec do i need to do a vsword
     
  20. Dino

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    Vsword is a 2h weapon . Thus , you should raise str (pure if possible , if u want to make best vsword) However , since your already pure tech .Don't let it become a waste before changing the stats . Get a few hundred k spins to make higher level weapons for profiency level . That is only if you are willing to sacrifice some spina to save time and orbs . If not , I will recommend you to delete account and restart by going pure str or str with a few tech-Dont exceed Tech 20-30 is my recommendation - By creating a new account , you will only require 15 stacks or S.art to reach level 40+ . Or 64 stacks . Or you could just do pure str and level up to profiency 19 in underground , killing ruin rat.
     
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