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Dex for Mages

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Ein, Nov 19, 2015.

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  1. Ein

    Ein Well-Known Member

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    I already searched and found many threads about Aspd, but I'm now curious about Cspd as it's not popular
    Is it worth it to put points in dex for mage class?
    I tested it with my friend who use pure INT build and me who put 50 points in dex for my mage. The difference is only 0.2 seconds (counting my friend didn't lie and I really believe so) and believe it's not worth it
    But I would like to clarify this with you guys and hear your opinions since casting with nearly 0 seconds (which seems to be impossible) is kinda cool
     
  2. Varde

    Varde Active Member

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    No

    Use cspd gear+seltirio and max chain cast

    The end
     
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  3. Ein

    Ein Well-Known Member

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    Used Nun-hat that gives cspd
    Seems dex really is not worth it for mages
    But I might use it for future mage knight reference
    Is there any cap in cspd or the difference is just really small?
    I want to know if there's someone researched for the formula just yet
     
  4. Varde

    Varde Active Member

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    There is some testing in mak0i's thread on mages. I have around 500 cpsd myself and imo chain cast 10 really speeds things up for arrows->lance combo. Dex is only worth it later on when int is maxed out imo.

    Libra also gives +1000 cspd if you want to feel the difference but honestly I feel like at 500 I cast fast enough (esp cos of chain cast combo) + to prevent flinching when farming with wall.
     
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  5. Aya Frea

    Aya Frea Queen of Nirvana Elite Member

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    1000 cspd mean 1 s reduce of cast time
     
  6. skysky

    skysky Well-Known Member

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    Ya the general consensus is that cspd is not worth it.
     
  7. Ergeruz

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    im using nunhat+selt and im having a great time killing with the new skills i got... not using chain cast tho and i dont feel the need to have it
     
  8. tekuuei

    tekuuei lnori Elite Member

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    Dex reduces charging time for MP charge
    Dex Increases matk by 1
    Dex increases weapon stability
    Dex increases CSPD
     
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    i gave my magician balanced stats for INT and DEX and the results are quite good.
    in the beginning i couldn't use Magic Javelin at all, because the cast time was over 3 seconds and the distace of 8 meters was too short to finish casting before getting hit by a special attack that cancels my spell.

    now the cast time is ~2.5 seconds and i always hit first and kill the target.
    also my magic arrows fire after 1.8 seconds (originally 2.x seconds) and my MP Charge only needs 3 seconds and it's just Lv5.
    Magic Wall activates after 1 second, so i can safely cast it 2 times in sequence with minimal interruption.

    (my character has ~20 points in Dex, so a high-level character should be even faster.)
     
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    Ergeruz Well-Known Member

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    My mage is casting greater than that without dex...
     
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    Alycia What did I miss? Elite Member

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    It would only be worth it once the game reaches the point where you can't focus on only 1 stat anymore. (When you get so much stat points that you end up maxing one stat and is forced to move on to the next.)
    I would recommend Magic Ranger in that case,since Dex also benefits Mages in terms of Cspd and are the main stat for Rangers. (Archer/Gunner)
     
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    do you mean faster casting or longer spell range?
    either way i guess you have special equipment to get this boost. i don't have any.
     
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    Squid Ur Goldfish's lover Elite Member

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    I don't have any cspd gear and I cast spells just fine, if you can position yourself in a safe place and can get all your spells out then your fine, I have less than 200 cspd and I'm doing a fine job of casting wall within .2 seconds haha
     
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    Faster casting.. U can havr selti+nunhat and go full int... And have 700 cspd without dex
     
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    tekuuei lnori Elite Member

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    And also DEX is the only Way to reduce charging time. Cspd will not reduce MP charging time.
     
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    yay XD it's perfect for my Ninja Mage!

    doesn't DEX also raise accurary?
     
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    staff hitting a boss to its death isn't an efficient way to kill it lol!

    i'm only mentioning the required stats for dex in mages
     
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    maybe not for bosses, but for other monsters, especially the magic ones.
    some monsters are quite resistant to my magic, but i can kill them all with fast ninja skills.
    and it looks really cool, too. XD

    i have read some more discussions about mages and most people focus on magic attack, so speed is unimportant as long as you can kill everything with one hit.
    but that is only one possibility, my mage for example uses daggers as sub-weapon to become a ninja and cast speed, quick attacks and movement are very important to my mage variant.
     
  19. tekuuei

    tekuuei lnori Elite Member

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    yes DEX actually increases other stats but i listed only the important ones for most mages.

    But many variants around so you just had to play and trial :D
     
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    Today i noticed that my Wall magic has a bigger radius than that of others.
    I don't have any passive skills yet except for MP Charge, so either DEX or VIT has an effect on area magic.
     

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