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Drops Of The New Maps

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Crusader, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. vanilla_

    vanilla_ Well-Known Member

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    After getting all +S and 2 slot them, you will see a huge gap for bow, dw, and halberd compared to the minor classes.
    But i am pretty sure even 1s or ns eq will let you saw the difference.
     
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    I wonder when will ktn get buffed all i have seen it get nerfed hasso/tenryu *sigh*
     
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    Only buff i want for ktn is let it have element when used offhand for bow. BowTana ftw.
     
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    tenryu doesnt need a buff? if anything needs buffs its probably the passives + zantei or maga. Tenryu is a huge proration killer so i prefer they rework it instead.
     
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    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

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    That Tenryu nerf is nothing.

    Katana is already pretty balanced, and probably the best all rounder. Having both strong offensive skills and defensive/counter capabilities.

    Instead of messing with katana, they should nerf CF and halberd. Those two are way too OP compared to the rest. Doowew probably needs a nerf too (with the last nerf barely doing anything).
     
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    U sir are noob player perhaps or dont know how to play ktn thats why u saying tenryu huge proration killer.
     
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    Halb and Cf are just good why u want a nerf.
    Ktn needs a buff on offense.
    DW is okay now.
     
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    Oh?
    So you're saying that those two are balanced?
    Having to just avoid hits without doing anything and getting all your MP back with almost no effort, and suddenly deal massive damage, is fair?
    Being able to completely ignore any enemy's def, while other classes must have enough atk to deal barely decent damage, is fair?
    Yeah obviously. After all it's Suzuki's game.
     
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    Tenryu is a spam skill by design so it’s not a far fetched idea to say it is a major contributor to physical poration. DT and CF are way overdue for a nerf tbh and I kinda expect one next balance update
     
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    LMAO.
     
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    1.everyone is equally able to get their mp back with minimal effort with decoy so that's a poor argument

    2.Dt is the only skill in the game that doesn't get added power to the skill so to say it's broken is laughable when the dmg is completely player equip dependent. Garyou tensei also has 100% physical pierce along with 1000added constant and 30multiplier(when all requirements are met), but I don't see anyone saying anything about that....strange

    3. The only skill that need some adjustments is CF because not only does it have a 50multiplier at max stacks it also gets an additional atk from decoy +5 bonus hits(and don't forget the fact that u can pierce 25% of your enemies Def with snipe before u cast it) .... Now that's unbalanced, theres no drawbacks besides avoiding being touched when in any real party that's never gonna happen.
     
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    1. getting MP with no effort is just a tack on to how you just need to basically run and not do anything while your Decoy is doing work. Other classes have hitstun with Decoy so you do have to think a little (though its not enough of a nerf imo) The arguement was moreso meant to be a rhetorical question.

    2. It does not get added power to the skill = no constant. The damage constant is not very important at times and the multiplier is still workable, and along with the large amount of Atk it is very possible to offset the no constant with the large amount of Atk power you naturally have, which is much much more than other weapons and have a good amount of supporting moves to make it much better than it already is. The thing abour Garyou is that is has a long list of prereqs before it is good, 10 katana skills, Kairiki active, Two-Handed. You arent able to use it as much as DT, which has a very quick activation speed.

    3. It is unbalanced, but tbh battles can go so fast that two 4/5 charges can be much easier and better for yourself for getting DPS. Still unbalaced I agree
     
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    This thread moved from new drops to which skill needs to be nerfed
    DT is either a leap of faith or death. You basically jump and go 0 meters to your target. I guess highee risk gives bigger rewards.
    On topic though i like the app of the halberd dropped by antbee
     
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    lol hoes mad do ur research, have u SEEN a ktn player in game before?
     
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    Perhaps you can show us how to play tenryu without spam skill. Most of the player will try to spam Tenryu within the buff period to get maximum damages of tenryu, even though you you stack tenryu only in extend time, on that period tenryu-player already mess up the proration because you need to cast like Tenryu (First Cast)> Madagachi(Extend Buff) > Tenryu(Stack 2) > Tenryu(Stack 3) > Tenryu(Stack 4).
    And I pretty sure Tenryu-Player will continue use Tenryu when reach Stack-4, else no point they works so hard to stack the buff, in this case the physical Skill proration already have at least 6 stack+.

    So Katana is proration killer is truth, but well maybe you can change our mind.
     
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    Remove element from bow, problem solved
     
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    1. Other weapons have 4m or less auto atk range, while bows have 10m. Melee classes' Decoy would be rendered useless for agile bosses, while bow users don't need to reposition their Decoy as much. And the hit-stun for non bow/bg too.

    2. That no constant bonus is not a problem because the skill itself has high multiplier and halberds have the highest weapon atk out of all weapons. DT is also spammable, while Garyou requires you to use 10 attacking katana skills, Kairiki buff, and armor break to reach its maximum damage. And Garyou is not unsheathe too, which I think balances it out.
     
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  18. Koto

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    I am a ktn player since 2017 and lol i can bet u nvr played with an expert player or u never played ktn urself or even if u did u were so noob lol that u started saying tenryu is proration killer. I can bet my spina on it.
     
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  19. Koto

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    Wait wait i have reply for technical weebs like you too just need to record a gameplay.
     
  20. Komibii

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    What he was saying might not have been that tenryu is an inherent proration killer, but more that a lot of newer players or selfish players will ruin the proration with it since they either don't know or don't want to use an auto attack inbetween each tenryu.
     
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