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Fellow Snipers,do you enjoy mp charging?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by PheliciaYan, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. PheliciaYan

    PheliciaYan Well-Known Member

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    Well i guess most players have/had come across the situation where some snipers are taking too much of their sweet time MP charging after every boss fight.Sometimes they even take like a min or so 'reloading their weapons'(mp charging),making everybody wait for the next round.
    Fellow Snipers,do u enjoy mp charging?

    I use sniper as main and i do charge a lot,however,my charge time are no longer than 20 sec with 3times mp charge.Which i think is still acceptable and not a nuisance to other pt members.(I rarely do 3 mp charge either unless i spammed all my mp in the fight).I just wanted to share my idea on how to make ur mp charge faster here:

    How do you know if you are taking more time on mp charging ?
    Simple,just join warmonger party.You will most likely end up in a party will all snipers.You can compare the time they need to charge to yours.
    How to speed up your mp charge?
    1.Swap to a staff or MD before you mp charge.Keep the staff and bowgun on the top right corner of your bag slot for easy access.
    2.If you know you clearly are the 1st rank attacker after 1 run,dont spam your smite snipe combo so much on the subsequent runs. Owning lesser or more red bar below your name isnt gonna make a difference,unless tat bar can satisfy your ego of being the strongest out there =.=
    3.Spam lesser mp on combo also means you dont have to charge so much after the boss fight.
    4.Yea some like to have huge mp pool,but this also means that u need to charge a lot after the run.Some people charge 5 times after a fight,really enjoying mp charging.
    5.MP charge skill at least LV5.Please.Dont run around with lv 1 mp charge and ask others to wait for you.
    6.Make sure u have 'Quick Draw'.It helps but i dont really find it a significant help in mp regain.
    7.Sober analysis,if u have extra sp to spare.
    8.Use AMPR+ASPD equipt.Its not a bad choice.Nobody is using it because mp pool and crit build are too mainstream,but ASPD+AMPR type of snipers can be useful too for long fight against tough bosses.(Im still using this type)
    9.Mp charging just before the boss dies, when u come out of boss that mp will be regained, plus it saves around 5secs(Contributed by BK)

    Just my 2 cents about mp charging and my first time posting a mini 'guide' here ;) Please comment below if you have a better idea on reducing mp charge time,really appreciate it.TQ

    Happy Sniping
     
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  2. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Add mp charging just before the boss dies too, when u come out of boss that mp will be regained, plus it saves around 5secs
     
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  3. PheliciaYan

    PheliciaYan Well-Known Member

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    Added.Thanks BK :)
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Np hehe
     
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    before the update (idk which) this nethod works, but as of now, this method is can only be done when u wait ur mp charge cast time (even after boss fight) counted down to zero on reward screen. if u mp charge before the boss dead and u see there r 5 secs left on reward screen n u press back, u wont gain mp at all.
    sigh, asobimo rly wont let us to exploit them loopholes.
    :(
     
  6. Howein

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    Lvl10 gives 5 sec charging and 300 mp per charge.for me its a must to level.. but i was thinking, does agro decreases your damage? Letz say im a tank who gets agro quick than you a sniper who has huge damage. I had a just had a weird experience that i get 2k-4k snipe on forestia againts someone who gets tge agro. Ive been try to kill decel with my tank 1h and a pt with 1lvl70 mage and 1 sniper,i get the agro but damn their so slow killing decel and almost run out of my hp.sorry..kind of off topic..
     
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    UpToHeLL Well-Known Member

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    I gain 3bar mp on mp charge after boss dies.
     
  8. PheliciaYan

    PheliciaYan Well-Known Member

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    I have pt with someone who spam provoke in roga a few times,not a vit tank tho.I dont notice any drop of snipe damage if i dont hold aggro.Rather,i have a peace of mind sniping(doing what i supposed to do)than to evade boss crazy attacks
     
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    Ive always regained mp doin this tho i probs havnt noticed if charge is longer it wont work as my toons use a staff except dw which doesnt have charge anyway, but needs timing if ppl want it to work if there charge takes 5+secs
     
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    I see this so much! Guys you don't have to prove anything to anyone, a quality sniper won't take away potential boss-run time from the party just because he needs 4 recharges due to spending all MP to feel good over the others...

    I'd say to all snipers: Adopt your play style to your party.

    If your party is slow then opt for the dps role but if your party is too strong, don't snipe (or do it moderately) until the boss is completely broken (if you're interested on its drops, of course) unless its one that increases guard or resistance after broken, then snipe all the way until it's low HP and if you'll recharge do it while you tap and wait for it to be broken.

    Also, there's no need on using all your mana in 1 battle, but if you do it please switch to a staff (set it on shortcuts and viceversa) for saving a lot of valuable 'idle' time. Or you could do this: Normal run/No recharges after battle > Auto-attack and breaking contribution run/Mp full after battle > Normal run/No recharge... and so. I tend to do this a lot and really don't need the MP charge skill.

    Quick Draw is also a good friend, by lowering your combo damage using Save or Consecutive effects you'll spend less mana but use more skills in total, making QD activate often.

    Just an ending message: Teamwork over dps.
     
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    I do the switch to staff trick ^^

    I try to be the first to charge till 10Bars (have level 5 charge) before my team mates can click "Ready" (cut myself some slack if im the party leader)

    I feel that MP Charge... is really boring... hehe

    Side note... 2Hs... charge really slow... and i use a exo sword, so if i charge with staff and switch back my hp will lack around 800+. So i do No Charge>Charge>No Charge runs hehe
     
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    To continue on this. I do this too, but if you don't get the mp charge finishing charging you won't get the MP back.
    Example: say you use MP charge and the boss dies, but you leave when it had 2 seconds left. You won't get the MP if you do that.

    MP isn't a real deal to me unless a pt wants me to spam the skill. I would switch to a magic device to atleast cut to 5 seconds and not 7-8.
     
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    Yep just i never noticed this as im a staff user
     
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    I usually charge one time if my pt is fast and leave my rest mp empty (it will recharge while I fight anyway ) xD
    if my pt is slow I'll charge twice and fill up all my mp :cool:
     
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    I´d like to add that you can actually hear the sound at the end of mpcharge(Not sure how to call that.. a bell like sound XD), even if the rank table shows. So basically if u get to input your MP CHarge, and wait a bit until that finishes, you still get your mp.
     
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    Oh yeah. Forgot about that.
     
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    i just make my party wait...i have a 6 sec charge on my archer if at roga i use xtal earrings which give me around 9mp, so i charge about 2-3x, otherwise, i use my 5mp and i really only charge once. granted...99% of the time, i am partying with my guildies...and they generally don't mind :)
    but i've partied with randoms before, and they've never complained about my mp charging habits...or i'm just lucky..
     
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  18. Alleura

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    I always successful to gain 300mp for this method. in this case lvl10 mp charge.
    But
    I often, did not get any MP return. if I use it on lvl1 MP charge character.

    I am not sure because of it, but this is my experience.
     
  19. chalkie-kun

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    Longer prep time in Roga is common. Speed grinds are mostly found in WM, Mauez, and Ooze.
     
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    Warrior have Triger Slash
    Mage have MP charge
    Archer have Quick draw

    If there'll be new skill , I guess the next class who will get MP recovery thingy should be knuckle/martial art.
    Maybe like Chakra monk skill on FF series :D
     
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