Gloria it no work skill?

I dont feel different when cast it. Im tank but damage i got not different from normal just more guard rate it good?

 

Damage resistance gain from raw DEF and MDEF falls severely after a value of 250 so Gloria is pretty useless...

 

Lol. So sad

 

TLR at bottom.
What is your defense at first of all?

As a tank the skill is "okay" when you're hitting MDEF/DEF thresholds passively, without sacrificing much to hit those states. This is easily done as Tanks passively gain DEF/MDEF through VIT/INT. Easily hitting thresholds as the level cap increases to hit relevant Gloria thresholds.

For DPS, 250 DEF/MDEF is your best bet. As you get the most bang for your buck, from 0 - 250 DEF/MDEF. DPS also, don't get this amount passively, getting more than this is typically expensive to either damage (gotta invest in VIT/INT), or your wallet. DPS's best threshold would be around 400 with Gloria, If it was free to achieve, and didn't require sacrificing damage, better defensive alternatives, your mom's left kidney, skill points, ect to achieve. That's not as much the case for tanks though. So DPS should stick to the 250 rule (unless your rich and just randomly have 400 def and have a Gloria slave)

Scaling for DEF/MDEF looks like this.
0 - 250 MDEF/DEF: Every 10 MDEF/DEF = .8% reduction (20% at 250)
250 - 1250 MDEF/DEF: Every 100 MDEF/DEF = 1% reduction (30% at 1250)
1250+ MDEF/DEF: Every 1000 MDEF/DEF = 3% reduction

Keep in mind that Gloria has "sweet spots" for best gains on reduction. I said before that 400 would be ideal, for DPS if it were free.. For example. Being at 250 MDEF/DEF (20% reduction) and using Gloria will get you to 750 MDEF/DEF (25% reduction), increasing your reduction by 5%. Where having 400 MDEF/DEF (21% reduction) and using Gloria will get you to 1200 MDEF/DEF (29% resistance), netting you an 8% gain.

If you're in the 1.25k ~ 1.5k DEF++, the next time you'll see noticable gains in Gloria is at like 2k DEF. Where you'll gain an extra 4000 DEF (12% reduction). At 3.5k MDEF/DEF you'll hit Extreme gains of 7k MDEF/DEF (21% reduction). Till then you're at 6% reduction with Gloria, which might make or break Sanctuary threshold, but is still pretty meh if you're looking for big increases right now.

Resistance/HP/Aggro/whatever is popular this year will be more important overall to reducing damage, Gloria's simply a bonus ontop of that if you have the skill points.


TLR: If your DEF is between 1250 ~ 1750 MDEF/DEF, you're only getting 6% reduction from Gloria. Wait for higher level caps that get you to 2k+ to get noticable gains and 3.5k+ for even higher gains.

DO NOT TRY TO FORCEFULLY INCREASE YOUR DEFENSE, GLORIA IS BEST WHEN YOU SACRIFICE NOTHING TO GET THESE REDUCTION THRESHOLDS. Focus on resistance/hp/ect as they are all better than Gloria, but no, Gloria isn't "useless", it's a bonus once you can't add anymore stuff on your plate.

*signs out for another 4 months*

 

it doesn't work well just like asuccbimbo pathetic attempts at maintaining their playerbase.

waste of points,good for tricking newbies who had no idea about the full mechanics and description of the skill which btw asuccbimbo never cares to explain.

same as the other 100+ skills in this lousy game.

 

This is why math nerds go insane. "It is balanced becos it is im-balanced" if one can spread a new meta asobimo just nudge a digit and the whole meta falls down(cos of long math formulas lol!) That is the reality of a class-less build, once a meta is built it becomes a copy-pasta factory and unique builds are discriminated (coz they are weak af if not meta mentality). Hence asobimo is always changing the meta on the fly.
Plus it is a marketing shtik. Buy more obli books/notes and reset books! If you mess up, it is ok. Just buy more and you can fix it. "Here is some orbs go enjoy!" If you keep gunning for the current meta, you be bleeding out your wallet by saying."Me is stupid! I messed up! Take my money! I wanna a do over!".

 

Hmm if that +max hp for more santury effect is better?

 

You know what's worse than getting gloria? People who takes the whole defense skill line on the battle tree, which adds around 100def/mdef for 30 sp. Now that's useless. Def up stargem is also a waste of money.

Get enough resistance first, then maxhp. You need at least 50% magic and physical resistance for the highest damage reduction before the cutoff, which reduces the value of resistance by half past 50%.

 

hmm ive had a question about gloria too:
regarding reflex reducing your def/mdef to almost 0, when a pt member uses gloria, it went up again
so is gloria useful to negate the def/mdef decrease that is worth almost 20% dmg reduction? or is the increased value after gloria just a visual effect and doesnt actually do anything?

 

Gloria is +200%, Reflex and some other skills are -90%.
the effects add up, so you would still have positive values when getting both.
the only exception is Rampage, which directly sets def/mdef/flee to 0.

 

Hmm i up all resis skill i see at shield skill

 

Yea resist from skills is good but if u can also get more resist from equips even better
Like harmony shield , lil empress garb , circle of order , dark talisman (resist)
Even from xtals like seele , yashiro azukis mom , iron empress etc
U don't have to use all of them , they r just for reference
For resist the more the merrier XD