Graze Hit how to reduce?

Some advocated
1) Adding more dex
2) Increasing more crit rate
3) get more accuracy equips

Any other comments?

Can increasing crit rate only without adding dex reduce grazing?

 

Graze=an attack that would result in a miss if the crit didn't proc.

Crit doesn't affect graze, your HIT and enemy's FLEE do, in which derived from dex, so yeah. Get more dex. Enemy's FLEE stat differs so you'd find yoursef to graze a lot in some bosses on higher difficulty setting. For ultimate mode venena for example, you need something like 600 HIT for your attacks to not graze at all.

 

hi how would u suggest reducing graze for a halberd ?

 

Not hitting means no graze.

That aside, some bosses have insanely high dodge (especially higher difficulties) it's impossible to get anywhere near enough accuracy to make a difference.

 

Add dex of course, but that would be worse than just getting str agi and grazing all the time. Graze half your stability, so just try to get max stability instead

 

and this is one of the reason that high WATK weapon barely get any ATK from DEX, since the damage output will be less stable and made them comparable to another weapon. Too bad that it's only good theoretically, but in the actual gameplay i felt this HIT stat is barely helping, thus no one even using +Accuracy stat in their gear

 

Growth of HIT = DEX in a 1:1 ratio.

Useless to get dex unless using a bowgun, bow or katana.

Or you're one of those wierdos playing magic device.

 

Increase critical rate only reduce the chance on "miss", you still get graze.
Increase DEX is good, it's provide accuracy and Stability on most the weapon, but unless your main stat is DEX else it's will not have much different especially you challenging the High difficulty mode ( Nighmare, Ulti )

Some skill or ailment may help you graze problem.
1. Dazzled ailment double up the weapon graze threshold, I know only Dive Impact have this ailment.
2. Dancer skill Astute dance ( 500mp ) reduce enemy flee by 10% at SLv10, Maximum Stack ( 10 ) reduce 40%
formula = Enemy Flee% - (Slv +(2+(Slv+2)/3)*(Stack-5))
3. Minstrel Skill Fairy Song increase accuracy by 20% at Slv10, Maximum Stack increase 200% accuracy.
formula = Hit% + 2*Slv*Stack, Flee%+Slv*Stack

The other way is like above mention, increase the damage cap will overcome the loss when graze occur.
Example..
A: 100 Stab with ATK10 weapon, when graze damage is 5~10
B: 100 Stab with ATK20 weapon, when graze damage is 10~20
Even though B trigger at minimum stability (50%), it's still having same damage with the Maximum stability ( 100% ) with A.
Increase your ATK or Reducing Defend is almost the same method, just increase ATK is more efficiency because not much Boss have higher defend and rarely have weapon give high defend pierce ( as I know only Toy-gun and PCR ).

 

Meteor breaker has dazzle. Low rate for THS tho.

 

That one is dizzy isn’t ?

 

hmm. Maybe i'm mistaken. Sorry. Removed mb from my tank for a while, so hasn't seen it's ailment. Do any on javelin element proc dazzle? I only remember neutral, fire and water.

 

Guess no, I remember is...
Fire - ignite
Water - freeze
Wind - blind
Earth - Slow
Neutral - Flinch
Light - Dizzy ( reduce eva and guard rate )
Dark - Fear

 

Dont bother. Graze is a debuff of minimal priority, since your stability still swings between the low end and high end. If youre so worried, lemme crush your dreams:

A good deal bosses have enough dodge that makes it physically impossible to not graze on them. Our great friend Ornlarf is a prime example of a boss to not like, and he doesn't even have 700 flee.
Youd have to build in accuracy to achieve even 1000 hit rate, and oh boy, god forbid you put the boss on NM or Ulti, because FORGET not grazing in that situation

 

I agree with u on that and i use bow. On nm/ulti boss. Graze is unavoidable. I think i saw a vid of someone testing max dex triple ice cream (~1500 hit iirc) and still miss/graze on ornlarf ulti.

 

Thats because on ulti, stats like def/hit are multiplied like ×8 or something. You're fighting insane numbers; better to just do the standard formula of maxing stability, crit rate and crit damage to maximize damage off a graze

 

tbh it's dumb that they made crit is a sure hit, and since by having crit your attack wont miss they made the HIT stat less usefull by increasing the mobs dodge. they should've made the crit attack to be able to miss (but crit still should've give small amount of absolute accuracy%, so that it still have a chance to hit for those non-dex build), and then decrease the dodge rate of mobs, this way the hit stat will be more usefull. Oh, maybe nerfing a bit of katana and shot skills will make non-dex main stat char less jealous and made things more balanced since we do know that those katana and shot users hit like a truck and recover MP like sonic right now.
But then again, i'm afraid they'll ever do things like this if no one ever complained about how useless hit rate and dodge rate for players.
Btw sorry ranting here eventho i didnt cover the main topic

 

Ornlarf Ulti have 4152flee so... Always graze XD

 

asobimo never scale accuracy stats even your max dex + with accu% stats equip+xtall (not triple ice cream or similar equip) you always miss in average nm and ulti boss. the dev is very lazy to scale it (ex. to give 1H DEX consistent dmg advantage vs 2H STR graze dmg)

 

can i ask? for example my total stability is 150%. but the physical stability cap is 100%. when attacking monster, i got graze hit, the stability became 75% or 100% on that attack?