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Halberd +?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Fleeting Prefect, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. Fleeting Prefect

    Fleeting Prefect New Member

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    I'm just requesting some updates related to HB (halberd) users... because my main char is one, and I think HB users need more skills (accuracy-raising skills, damage-raising skills, or taunting-related skills) or permission to use several sub-weapons. I thought of this ideas coz I played games (which I often play hb users) which are fulfilling the "dps" theme of halberd with the cost of vulnerability, also assisting with skills or buff with atk speed+ and heal or lifestel. I hope toram team will consider my idea... Sorry I'm new to this forum so bash me all ya want.
     
  2. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Master of the Ninja Kittens Elite Member Epic Member

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    this is a fan-made forum, whatever you do here has no effect on the game and developers don't read here either. :p
    this game tries to apply a "class-free" system, so you have to assemble the abilities you want yourself by combining different skill trees.

    speed buffs are in the Halberd tree.
    heal comes from Support skills, lifesteal is available in Dark Power skills.
     
  3. Komibii

    Komibii Professional Coochie Obtainer Elite Member

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    Accuracy raising skills: You don't need them, just raise your crit rate with equipment. Dragon tooth already has an increased critical rate, and you can use punish ray or meikyo shisui (from the mononofu skills) if you need extra crit.
    Damage raising skills: Halberd mastery, ATK UP, Critical UP, and Intimidating power are good for raising your damage, and war cry (from the blade skills) and brave aura (from the support skills) are good party buffers.
    Taunting-related skills: Provoke from the knight skills
    ASPD: Quick aura and godspeed wield, which are both in the halberd skills tree
    Healing/Lifesteal: Heal or mini heal from the support skills can work nicely, or you can get bloody bite from the dark power skills. I would recommend Heal out of all three since it is the most efficient healer, can be used at any range, and doesn't ruin the proration if you need to spam it.

    Apart from that, I think it would be cool if halberds could equip more subweapons. We could do a lot of cool things with the halberd if that was allowed, but Asobimo tries too hard to balance things and that ends up restricting the freedom that we can have with our builds.
     
  4. Fleeting Prefect

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    Given your comments and statements, do you mean that halberd is more than a backline damage dealer than a fighter? Because it is hard to survive even u put some VIT stats and have hp+ equips, still darkpower skills can't help much coz of heal cap and long animation time (comboing it with gsw makes u more prone to dying than having more life points) and if u use supps heals like mini heal it really does make u a backliner. If u rely on these "class-free" skills, it doesn't quite work out on hb fighter users. They're like "bowmen (cf) but made meelee and with more expensive equips".
     
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    Red_Fox Master of the Ninja Kittens Elite Member Epic Member

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    you can't have the highest atk and speed and also the best defense.
    if you want to cover the party and take all the hits, use a weapon that can equip shields.
    we simply replied to this ^

    if you want to be more knight-ish, like the Dragoon job from final fantasy, you should not use Godspeedwield; there is no way to cover up the loss of resistance.
    you can play around heavy armor, Parrying Dagger and halberds with guard stats (like Knight Lance), but it will cost you some speed.
    Dragon Tail reduces damage taken by half. Dive Impact makes you invincible for a second, but is more costly and can only activate within 4m range.

    the "class-free system" offers many choices, but you still need to specialize towards one direction or another.
    "fighter" is very vague. what exactly do expect of your character?
     
  6. PutuKarma

    PutuKarma Well-Known Member

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    just use a dagger that give physical and magical resistance, it's far better than using parrying dagger since rn guard mechanism is a hindrance to the gameplay, and dont sacrifice your speed by using heavy armor, just look for an armor or xtal or additional that giving decent amount of resistance (except ailment resist). And just like what other people said, you need to sacrifice something (from the build) to be able to get tankier
     
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    Halberd is one of the best melee classes right now with arguably the best damage melee skill which is dragon tooth, which ignores enemy defense. And after the recent skill changes, they even gave halberd an invincibility skill by adding a 2 sec invincibility effect when using dive impact, which you can use to avoid attacks, in addition to an excellent defensive skill called elegant poise which can be obtained from dancer skill tree by using a dagger, so right now halberd can also be a fighter that has plenty of skills to protect itself
     
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    Lol HB kit is already more than enough in terms of damage, compensating for its slow skill activation and mobility.
     
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    There are 2 ways of playing halberd, long range speedy glass cannon halberd, the other one is close range ampr halberd.

    Long range halberd uses 1mp skill combo from 12m+ with full damage buff, such as warcry, kairiki ranshin and brave aura. Godspeed wield is used to sped up the motion speed, though youll be really vulnerable to attacks. War cry of struggle is used to recover your mp

    Short range halberd style uses decoy shot, and maybe some food buff and ampr xtals like zarth. You can spam the dt as long as the ampr is adequate. Gsw can still be used at your own risk.

    You can also do both style depends on the situation, its not like you need a completely different gears or skill build.
     
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    is dragon tail worth maxing out if I can't afford elegant poise(dancer skill book)?
     
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    HB exchanges atk for def it has massive atk power but our defences suck
     
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    how so
     
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    Gsw
     
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    Spanish Bread Well-Known Member

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    GSW is not necessary
    GSW does not boost ATK Power
    If HB sucked at DEF, pre-stats and allocation should be greatly different from what other weapons do.
     
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    But gsw boost motion speed more motion speed more skills more skills more damage
     
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    Spanish Bread Well-Known Member

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    invalid.
    You only make this statement true, if you make it out to be one.
    GSW does "not" boost atk. I dont see my ATK stats get boosted @3 stacks.
    this notion of HB High atk low def. solely depends on your build.
     

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