Haru's Complete Refining Guide

Waste of spina and guaranteed to fail or cost several million more than necessary unless you're very lucky or hack.

 

So I decided to test it. Full tec and lvl90 with 12 Dex. I took a slotted 2h 0-b and a staff 0-b and a slotted armor e-b and a shield 0-b and a slotted staff d-b and a slotted 1h 0-b with one stack of anti deg and oric. Had left overs. Cost me 2mill Spina but very effective. Not too many fails too. I don't feel it was a waste.

 

Yep ori+anti is good for +B but not for +A for +A any ore is 1% success so it is better to use a full luk char as luk reduces the chance to degrade. You can try yourself.

 

My comment was for 0-S not 0-B as Aya pointed out but yes for 0-B it can be a great method however rng can screw you as well ^^

 

Then my apologies. I have never got +s I think mostly cause I refuse to use magic hammer.

 

Nope. I believe you. I just haven't built a luck char

 

Sooo to +S.... Random ore+anti deg+luck... Or just random ore+luck?

 

I tested the 1% to +A +S with hematite and it didn't make a difference so I would say super anti degration and full luck bs to above +B is right. Just my 2 cents.

 

Random ore + anti + luk
Just random ore + luk means you are definitely gonna do +B 6times just to get +A (It will degrade so many times even if degrade rate is 1% more than success rate)

 

hello. haruchan. so .. i heard rumor lately. luk doesnt affect on degrade rates anymore.
is it true?
or is it just rumor?
please give me revelation.
rumors scary.

 

This is one of my favorites guides, so detailed and explains everything. I don't have a good refiner yet, you're making me have thoughts about it now. *computer high five* Thanks for posting and taking the time to write this.

 

J/w before I start a new char and spend shina on more skills, is this guide still relevant today in 2018? Seems like it is..

 

I have a question regarding degrading formula. I know that NS only degrade by 1, S degrade by 1 or 2, 2S degrade by 1 to 3. But what are the exact probabilities for them? How exactly does Luk and Anti-deg come in to the equation? Has this been researched before?

I'm trying to optimize the cost for refining, but it's impossible to do without these data.

 

Hm..... sorry for necroing but is this thread still works?
Just curious....

 

a good stuff..
sluurrpp slurrppp

thx for info helpful

 

tbh i cant understand anything but i hav question
if i use hp ori and a super anti degra with full tec then would it have much difference with using hematite in a full luk refiner? qwq

 

so we dont need luck BS right for make +S??

 

Orichalum ore can be droped from some mobs now at brahe laboratory look for the robot at the top of area 2 i dont know the name of mob but im sure it drops orichalum ore...

 

wtf.. i dont know that refining have that difficulty level thing.. i tought its for crafting.. my brain cant process all this information..