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Heal pt with my tank?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by repp730162, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. repp730162

    repp730162 Active Member

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    Heal and support now common for tanks?today when I play venena ulti searching for dye some people tell me to heal them with my tank char.
    I always use protect and aegis then they just spam their skill, die & angry to me.
    This is the first time people tell me to heal them when Im tanking. (should I use heal/royal for my tank?, I can't buy dancer skill for now)

    Thanks & sorry Im not good with english
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    At Venena? LMFAO!!!!!

    Dude, here's what you do.

    If people don't like your tanking but still keep you in party, you join the battle, wait for them to kill venena first HP bar and run like hell right after.

    The dps won't know what hit em.

    On the flip side, you don't have to support on your tank if you don't want to. Some builds can successfully make dps tanks but that's a difficulty level on its own realm.

    Just be a tank if that's all you wanna do. That's your role ain't it? If they want support let em add one or be one themselves.
     
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    just focus your role tanking. dont bother to babysit if they play glass cannon dps (death per second) cuz its their fault in the first if they kept dying
     
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    Ty,
    When I tanking at venena first I hit the pillar then I run to front of venena without trigger her so she didn't summon the meteor and spam my aggro skill reflect, berserk(save),guradian(swift),warcry(con) so shark didn't pop out after pillar gone I fight in front of venena keeping the laser stay and they always die at last health pase, when venena slap em (maybe their health less than 3k, idk)
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    You're not obliged to heal them, but as a tank, you should get heal to revive dead teammates from long range. Heal is better for a tank cause it doesn't have a long cast time compared to royal heal. And royal heal can't revive others. So heal is mostly there for you to do long range revives without leaving the boss unattended. Answering your first question, yes its pretty common for a pure tank to get heal and do some supporting role, but there are a lot of blacksmith tanks that don't have them.
     
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    Not applicable to all scenarios. A prime example will be a tank that doesn't know how pillars work in Venena. That being said, any and all melee that tries to close in on the pillar that keeps attacking will end up dying sooner or later.

    Anyway, just what people here said. Focus on your role. If you're a tank, then tank. Aside from holding aggro, it's also your duty to know the little shenanigans the bosses and mobs will do. If by any chance you already took note and have taken care of those things and the people still die, it's not your fault at all.
     
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    Ah okay so use heal to revive em and your tank build was superb I want to follow your build but maybe I can't Im knuc tank or waiting oblivion book for reset.
     
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    Jesus. Venena slap can be avoided pretty easily. There are a lot of invincibility skills and the range isn't that big. The only reasons I can see why they die from that are: (1) Lag. (2) They're mid skill or combo. (3) They suck.
     
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    Actually, (2) can go with (3) for those idiots that have 10 skills in combo.
     
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    You already get the aggro from the boss, healing dps is not in your job list. People nowadays expect tank To hold the aggro, heal them, regen their mana, remove their ailment, increase their resistance, make sure no damage reach them, Debuff boss, revive them when dead, control proration, buff them....

    So, what they expect actually not a tank, is a god.
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Lol wtf is all that. It's simple, do your job and if they bitch, just kill them all. It's easy to do at venena, no insane planning required, especially because of the raid type setting.
     
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    Pathetic! What's next, the little shits will demand to have the tank to take down the pillars?
     
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    Tbh I dont like burdening tanks with healing role because it can stress them with timing interrupts and holding aggro, mp management and also affect their positioning (especially on some bosses). This is why supports are useful. Nowadays more playstyles are popping up which does supporting role more.

    I get it if the party doesnt want support, its up to them. But the least they can do is learn how to survive by investing in foodbuffs, consummables, gears or skills that can save them from such timely deaths.
     
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    I met them again at Venena when I pt with my friends.
    They shout -1tank ulti, Im out from my friend pt and join them (group of 2 2H and 1arc).
    I ask them to give me lead because they're so slow (I whisper my friend pt to ally with me but don't in and just my pt in at that time) at start they didn't notice if the one who fight just my pt and yeah they got long combo like 2H stay at near venena just for long buff skill (warcry, berserk, impact,rampage, what else?) the other 2H doing fine and archer always spam snipe like a crazy monkey.
    I let them die from slap and laser, until one of them say "no ally?", I say "pelulu just to good for you and Im out".
    (maybe they report me but oh GOD,I never feel so good before). and ty all this is the best day ever (LOL)
     
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    ignore those nubs, let them die til they learn their build is garbage. tank shud focus on maintaining aggro n buff/debuff on self, why bother recover/heal them if they choose to burn themselves to death, get it? lmao
     
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    Nice thread lmao
    Agree on point of royal heal being slow, regretted getting it
     
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    Don't worry about those people. Generally when people start dying because they so bad and clueless at the game they'll find someone to blame because they in denial at how bad they are and their ego can't accept it.
    You don't have to heal anyone, most dps these days get one shotted because they using gsw and their hp is really low so it's not your fault, so the people getting slapped by venena and then getting mad at you for not healing are just finding someone to blame when heal would do nothing for them in the first place against her slap.

    As long you are keeping aggro and prorating then your tanking is perfect imo.
    On a side note though as a tank i would get heal to heal yourself and heal people when they die from range, heal can be very useful against tougher bosses that might hit u with a fractional attack and you needa heal up.
     
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    This is the main reason why the so called "paladins" came to existence. Their "almighty" Shield Cannon that appears every 30 secs put "shitty" DPS to shame. The worst part is that most of them don't know how pillars in Venena work, so they are pretty much the reason why those mentioned DPS dies.
     
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    yeah, sometimes I think why people always blame tank when they die(dps) not because they put all aggro and damage from boss to tank & don't heal the tank or help prorate(for skill spammer).
    Just because they move to much or use in combo situation so tank must think twice to inflict ailment(tumble,flinch,stun) to save em after that this people stuck at same situation when boss ailment cooldown still on then die, angry & repeat.
    ( High diff boss + useless people but talk to much and asobimo bless me to bring high damage aoe for this person, that was the best )
     

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