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Help with Brawler Equips

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by The Brahmnic Boy, Nov 2, 2020.

  1. The Brahmnic Boy

    The Brahmnic Boy Well-Known Member

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    So, here are my goals:
    • Get as close to 100 crit as possible, if not, at least 70 crit rate so that food buff makes it full
    • Maximizing ATK
    • Having at least 1700 MaxMP
    • Having lots of CDMG is not a priority.
    • 250 STR, 312 AGI is the plan.
    • ASPD, eh, it's okay. Don't want to cut too many corners.
    And here's what I had:
    • 309 + E Rescue Gloves with Atk5, Light
    • Insect Knife
    • Cool Summer Yukata II + 300 MP
    • Darling Tiara + Gespenst II
    • Speed Talisman IV
    Then I sold a gem, got some spaniz, and then got those:
    • Machina Ring (140K)
    • Ruzart
    • Eerie crystal - my share of the gemrun
    • Bark mail [ AGI10% ATK8% CD20 CR21] for 600K
    • (Because 2% ATK doesn't give more than AGI 10% for 400+S Red Steel Tonfa at 300 AGI)
    This is what I have in Storage:
    • Red steel tonfa 383+E ns
    • Toy Gun 257 + E .... 1s, (unlucky)
    • 5th anniv knux 236 ns unrefined
    • The complete Zarth set
    So, I have a bit more spina, and I think of buying the following,
    • Demonic Quasar
    • Bear Hat 1s
    Getting the following :
    • Demon Empress Dagger
    • Seele Zauga (gonna do a few runs with guild for HFG) to replace Eerie crystal
    I wanted to get 40-50% ATK Equips, but balancing that with MP and Crit rate is proving difficult.
    • I also want to eventually pierce RST and install a Mardula
    • Now, my Crit rate here is 15+21+25+15+10+15 = 101. !
    • My ATK% will be (with Mardula) 7+8+5+5 = 25% for Rescue Gloves, and less for others.
    • My MaxMP will be 1000 + 250 + 300 = 1550.
    Questions
    1. Should I ditch Seele/Ruzart for an ATK or Mana xtal?
    2. Is there a better Additional than Bear hat? Sakura School cap doesn't have Crit rate...
    3. But Toygun has Crit rate 75%, 75% of 25 is ... Greater than 15, so maybe I can use Sakura for Toygun?
    4. When I'll eventually upgrade to 2s Bear hat and Armour, what xtal gear do you think I should take?
    5. I'm NOT changing the Zarth set yet. I'll see how it affects.
    6. MaxHP... My Avatars give a total of 1600 MaxHP, but any xtal recommendations for it, which also help in MaxMP department?
     
  2. VangNir

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    25 base crit + 5 (crit up) + 12 (dagger) + 21 (armor) + 22 (lv8 crit) = 75 crit.
    If u have a Lv9 crit friend and 21 crit weapon, it will become 100 crit.
    Or u can use ice shaved hat for 20 critical + volgagon (5 crit) for extra aspd and 25 crit.


    Regretless is perfect for knuckle. It give massive ampr and resistance. Rather than blindly increasing max hp but getting killed eventually by 20k boss atk.

    Player crafted knuckle is still better in most cases. It have better cdmg and can fill the lack of crit rate on your build.

    For xtal, mega alpoca is good if u need that extra max mp
     
  3. The Brahmnic Boy

    The Brahmnic Boy Well-Known Member

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    About Regretless, I did initially play with that during this reset. My plan was to:
    • Take Play dead
    • Take Heaven Feather Garb
    • Take Mohawk wig
    • The above 3 reduce revive time to about 70-80 sec, so it isn't too much of an issue if I actually die. (Like, if it's a fastkill match, it would get over before I run out of Regretless, and if it's a long match then 70 seconds of inactivity doesn't hurt too much, given that most people are effectively dead for 60 seconds at least (300 seconds + whoever revives them + struggle)
    • HFG gives the 4000 flat HP which allows to use Regretless to full 10 stacks, plus 400 MP to help.
    • Mohawk wig gives that ASPD, plus you can add Yashiro Azuki's Dad and Wandering wheel to further increase ASPD.
    • However, this means that Armour and Additional slots get used up, and the Critical Rate/Damage stats need to be compensated for.
    • Probably using a player Statted Knux with CR21 + Dagger + Seele + Ruzart + Crit up to compensate for the Crit rate
    • 250 Crit damage will have to do instead of 300+ fanatics.
    • However then it's a question of whether to get ATK or DTE.
    • Since Most Player crafted Knuckles have 236 - 240 ATK. (Which means around 1500 raw ATK only for +S)
     
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    My usual foodbuff for lvling : max hp, crit rate, ampr, m resist, p resist.
    Lvl 7 resistance food will give you 32% resistance. thats a lot.
    I can survive finstern body slam and venena meteor at ulti this way. (With aegis/protection).
    This will make knuckle really "tough" just like the usual rpg brawler
     
  5. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    As l remember (and saw)
    Isnt regretless a 'dead for remaining time until battle is over' type of skill?
    If used with miniboss, one can revive, but l dont think its possible in boss battle..unless that was changed?
    Even skill description says 'first aid, struggle and revive droplet unavailable'.
     
  6. The Brahmnic Boy

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    But the timer continues. One party was so bad I waited all 300 seconds and they were still fighting. I respawned.

    But Regretless really takes away time from executing combos in the later stacks.
    If Regretless stopped at minimum 12 seconds instead of shortening further and further it would be awesome.
     
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    I never use it so l don't know x3
    Good luck with your brawler!
     
  8. Azu666

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    Hey, there's a +75 crit rate Knuckle called Mortal Katar from Grimuckus (a miniboss), maybe you should check it out :)
     
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    • I know, it has 220 ATK. That's around 1381 ATK on +S (which I would need to self refine) , and even if I get 50% extra ATK% from xtals and Equips, it ends around 2071 ATK.
    • But we can't invest everything into ATK%, we also need MaxMP, SRD/LRD, MaxHP, etc.
    • You need at least 2500 ATK for the SRD/Elemental to work better than ATK%
     
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    As far as weapons go, I find that player customized knuckles can offer the best balance between ATK, critical rate/damage, and ASPD and actually offer the highest damage output. It’s great to have toy gun as a backup for high-defence bosses but its damage output will be fairly lacklustre on average monsters. RST deals similar damage to player customized knuckles but with 20% less stability so the overall damage is less but it’s still a great alternative if you’re on a budget.

    To give my input on some of the questions:

    1) I personally wouldn’t recommend ditching Seele for an ATK/mana crysta because you can get much higher values of ATK/mana from crystas that attach to other equipment, like armour or weapon, but you cannot find much higher values of critical rate than 15 in crystas(aside from megiston upgrades) so I believe it will give you the most payoff. However, you could probably afford to switch ruzart to Zelbuse if you can afford the 150 MP loss, as you’ll gain a decent amount of weapon attack while only losing 2 critical rate.

    2) For additional gear, I’ve been looking for better options than bear hat for a while and sadly I personally can’t find any. Even when it comes to ATK+6-7% gear or ATK UP(AGI50% etc.), I find that bear hat still offers the most benefit because it still increases a good amount of ATK as well as critical rate. And if you used gear with higher attack/critical damage values, you’ll likely end up losing more than you would than by using bear hat by having to make up for the critical rate somewhere else.

    3) You could definitely use a different additional gear with toy gun, but as I mentioned above I think that toy gun isn’t the best option outside of situational use for high defence bosses. Even if you use Sakura school cap you won’t get much more ATK than you would using bear hat.

    These are just my opinions/input. Hope it helps and good luck! ^^)/
     
  11. The Brahmnic Boy

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    Yeah, I'm keeping all 4 knuckles to try and see which ones perform the best.

    Speaking of Player Statted Knux, are you speaking of ATK 10% ones or Elemental Knux? What do you suggest would be a good stat? Z

    Is Mardula a good choice?

    I gave up the thirst for ASPD a long time ago. Yes, you can reach 10000 ASPD, but that means sacrificing a lot of other stuff. Especially Wandering wheel, it kills all use of Chariot.

    I will update my Armour sometime later to add 10 CD% too.
     
  12. Azu666

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    Hey I found another potential Knuckle for you, the Quasar Arm is craftable now and it actually looks pretty decent :eek:

    • Attack+7%
    • Short Range Dmg+6%
    • STR+5%
    • +5 MP bars
    • +250 ASPD
    • +30 flat Crit Rate

    If you want my personal opinion, going beyond 100 Crit Rate is recommended since those Crit Resist bosses like Ornlarf, Seele, and etc. aren't gonna go away anytime soon xD
     
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    Mine are just ATK10%AGI10%CD20CD10%.

    And yep mardula is a great choice if you need the AMPR. If not then pomie chan and blancanine are great too ^^)b
     

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