Hybrid.

I think a lotta ppl get mixed up about hybrid. Seriously mixed up.

A hybrid is an amalgamation of two seperate entities of different PURPOSE to produce a singular entity that does both.

A brawler using daggers is not a hybrid. A 1hd sword using mana recharge is not a hybrid.

A person using support passives is not a cleric or a hybrid.

A hybrid amalgamates two functions into one and provides use.

I will now give you a hybrid tank. You moght call this the *paladin* from iruna. Which filled multiple roles whether it was str dex vit or vit dex int or vit int agi.

Note:
You do not need maxed out zomg.refined xtal gear to do this. I do this on this toon with +0 refine and no xtals. And I hold against my guild geared members which include bk firefox rbwy solo and exile.

Cap: Level 65
Newest boss: Warmonger.
Stat points available: 180 +/- 5 (emblem)
Skill points avail: 99 +/- 5 (emblem)

Start class: Staff
Stat points: int=vit (at cap 65 current emblems: 91/91)

Skills in leveling order: (using 99 cap)
(STAFF)
-Magic arrow: 5 (94)
-Magic wall: 10 (84)
--Mana recharge: 10 (74)

(SURVIVAL)
-Safe rest: 5 (69)
-Hp boost: 10 (59)

(KNIGHT)
-Provoke: 10 (49)

(MARTIAL)
-Smash: 1 (48)

(SHIELD)
-Shield Mastery: 5 (43)
-Force shield: 10 (33)
-Magic shield: 10 (23)
-Shield bash: 1 (22)

 

Explination:

A hybrid combines two aspects to create a whole. This combines a mages grind ability with tanking.

It also satisfys the need for a paladin requiring an aoe.

There are other options to aoe while tankong but I use this as the most.... visual....

You can aoe grind with the morons wanting mage only parties as well as do some dps in boss fights and sneak alt tank or outright tank.

A hybrid will never go toe to toe with a pure class however.

This is a tank hybrid over to mage. This is not a end all be all of everything.

This is meant as a primer. I will now address gear:

Most any gear will work doing this but it depends on the role you want to focus primarily on. You do not need much work to aquire it nor do you need to argue min/max. This is a primer.

Mage grind side:
Ooze staff (boss)
Throwing daggers (starter quest).
Aqua garb (boss)
Crystal earings or circlet
Magicians ring.

Tank side:

Ooze or rock staff
Ooze shield
Plate armor (Smith forged turned heavy)
Ooze helmet
Magicians ring

You do not need any refinement or xtals.

Brutal dragon works as well for tank side as does straye garb.

 

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Waa nice explanation mate!
Yeah, i also saw a "hybrid" knuckle that use shield... or so he said he is hybrid ahaha
Again as Aew said hybrid is about filling multiple roles on 1 character, not multiple weapon/skills (coz if it it is then all toram players are hybrids hahah)

 

yeah it may be possible that the 'hybrid knuckle' serves two roles tank and breaker

i made a dex based char that uses guns for long range and 1h for short range (i used to do something similar to my iruna character, using bow to pull mobs and switching to claws on my monk with s short cut key (in toram, you cant change equips when in battle). on the same char, martial skills to break. its more to facilitate wide spread mob farming when i cant do AOE with my mage

 

This fills both mage and tank.

Most mages in bosses just wall then sot back. The frind mage groups end up wirh 2 ppl wall the other 2 afk. Neither is hybrid.

A brawler is not a hybrid on off chance tank. They do not fill eother role. They are not a hybrid.

I can larch into everything including warmonger on my mage and run around ckaiming i am a tank on my mage. My mage is not a hybrid. It cannot fufil dual purpose.

I guess you could call this a paladin with 22 points left.

Havent spent em tho i could but it tanks it all and fufills grind aoe mage garbage. Im waiting till 70 skills unlock before i update.

You will note i dont say how to play it. Thats for you to figure out.

Edit: speeling sucks.

 

You can't switch in combat any gear and you are not fufilling any role aside from the primary tasked when boss launches.

Your job as an archer is to kill. Your job as brawler is to break and interrupt. You bounce between two and yet require a gear swap before the fight starts.

This can do both without a gear swap and a carry or be carried group. You are not a hybrid. You are an archer swapping a weapon for crappier dps to do breaks

You cant roll either gear set and do both. A hybrid can.

 

hmm 1 of my char blacksmith+alchemy <-- is this a hybrid?
i call it whitesmith... or proffesor... or just prod char XD

 

@Aewyrven
What do you think about SwordMage build?
They seems have the same purpose: DPS.
But they have mix Magical attack and Physical Attack.
I thinks it's hybrid too.

And looking on your build,
It's just tank with some self-defense skill to fightback, or to easy farm.
Same with those Mage with bless, Sword with MP charge.
Your build is Mage with provoke
But still, it's hybrid too?

Why so serious with other ppl hybrid's think,
The game allow us to free distribute stat point, free learn skill, no equipment limitation.

 

First. I wanna apologize to samm. I was ... dunno if forum will sensor it... assenine to them.

I know it might seem like an excuse but im fighting flu and pnumonia so meds got me loopy. Samms a bybrid sorta.... i need to reread their post and then the ones after. Gimmie a few and ill try reply.

 

Ok looking at some.... I wouldl classify samm as a hybrid if and only if they are swapping gear on the same account to accomplish dps as archer and breaker as brawler as they claim. Its 2 different roles combined under one stat and skill setup switching only gear for the roll (and class switch).

Foe: I am not quite sure what you are trying to say or do.... a boss gob sword which is 2hd iirc (correct me if im wrong) while launching a javelin. A long range attack on melee.... I would hazard a guess you are split stat int dex since dex would apply to your swords dmg and you would need i t to power javelin even with ot backed by smite in a combo....tho it is a very long cast... and imho a waste on both singles and bosses. however without knowing more.... I dunno. Im glad u do well tho. Whatever works for you is what matters.

Adriant: hah well played sir. Yes that is a hybrid. Albiet not overly valid in what i was discussing in my original post. *mutters* smartass... *smiles*

 

i personally don't think it's best to define what a hybrid is and what it isn't.
everyone will bound to have a different opinion on these things which means, it is subjective.
i say do whatever you guys are comfortable with and that conformity is not really original.
labels will only be real if you let it be real.
and besides, toram never really set classes, so from what i understand, anything can be a "hybrid"

 

Valid points.

The original design is however a tank. The bonus is at current game development a mage really isnt anything more than an arrow wall recharge.

I guess the easiest way to say it is this: a mage is a one trick pony. Its a wall aoe for grinds and a wall aoe for its elemental weaponry available against bosses, if terrain screws you, you fallback to arrows and if specd in lances for dps.

A support would have useful skills like bless mini heal and recovery but nothing much more since they are mana intensive to maintain and by the time the buffs are all in place the fight is ended against a boss.

Do I consider the wall with bless cure light aegis gloria protection recovery as a hybrid? No. It does not fufil a secondary role. You require the same stat for one single thing and cannot really call yourself anything more than a mage. You fulfill no other purpose. While a mage can do some amazing damage on grinds..... it doesnt really do anything if youre fired into a single target and cannot reliably wall... like warmonger. So your 25 points in mage tree leave you with...? Taking support skills most notably probably bless. Or maybe for more oomph lance. You are still pigeonholed into that aspect.

My hybrids mage skills allow for the aoe grind while retaining tank. Look at the ending of the skill list. 22 points left. Thats bless and heal if i want. Thats a tri use right there.

Pure mage with support. Currently, I dont see it as a hybrid tho that may change as we unlock 70s and further lvls/gear.

 

True..to a point.. I am not forcing my opinion of a hybrid on anyone, only stating what I believe a hybrid is.

This thread is my verson of a hybrid mage tank. I welcome discussion on the op. I welcome discussion in general to a point.... but as u said.... hybrid is to opinion, please respect in my thread, my opinion of whata hybrid is, as I will respect others opinions in their threads.

 

technically you are forcing your opinions onto others considering how your thread started off by telling other people that their opinions of what a hybrid is wrong?
i really don't see why you are urging me to respect you considering how my comment does not really seem disrespectful? lmao

 

Because this is my thread and my opinions and you are telling me not to express my opinions in my thread.

Edit: If you have a further problem with my descriptions of a hybrid clashing with your own and the unanswered masses in my thread; I invite you to forum message me or speak to me in game. Your comment has zero bearing on anything anyone has posted in this thread and is disruptive. It is not constructive nor relevant to the discussion.

Please refain from going off topic.

 

you know what, this is gonna turn into nit picking written discourse war so i'm gonna stop it here.
but all i was trying to say was, let people do whatever and define things however they want.
we good? xD

 

See my edit.

 

I guess we are not discussing about your build is work or not.
You build was solid, And I really believed that.

We are discussing about why you are push your opinion to reader what "hybrid builds" is.
Based on all of your statement above, I can easily say that your build can't be call as "hybrid" at all.
Your build is just Mage with provoke.
You are just mix INT with VIT for more survivability.