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If you need tank on Venena ulti...

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Lucifere, Dec 3, 2019.

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  1. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    you don't deserve to be lvl 190. Change my mind.
     
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    Amaymon Well-Known Member

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    It's actually more like: If you already have good tank in venena ulti but total party damage is shit and still dies repeatedly. Random parties at it's finest.

    Venena ult can be done without a tank, it's just that you'll end up almost soloing the whole run because most random players are dead weight.
     
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    i dunno why people even die at ult. the pattern is easy and if you play slightly carefully then you can survive and deal dmg easy.
    Heck i was playing with my dex tec statter with 4k hp on nm and i was surviving and getting constant atk rank 2
     
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    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    Most people just spam mindlessly even at meteor aoe. Most death occurence at ulti is the slap. It's manageable but most of the time people die there like crazy making the run add more 5 min.
     
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    Jackal♧ Well-Known Member

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    worst part is when the player keeping the aggro in middle dies(usually tank) every dies one by one by either laser or the pillar(one nasty mf at ult)
     
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    As a pure ohs user(main dmg being enchanted sword) with 10k hp 2500 atk, I can honestly say that I'm dead weight. _____. (Atk rank 4 every time) if u see me say lfp dont invite I'm garbage
     
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    the reason i get rank with my statter because it knows cf decoy and kariki and cf can hit two pillars simultaneously hence double dmg for atk rank
     
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    owe, but a tanker need to lvl up too :3
    inv tank plsssss
     
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    Common way people died:
    -Meteor/ball in mid combo or cast
    -Shukuchi when Venena is about to slap (just go to far left/right, both slap can't hit you there)
    -Pillar changes aggro to dps
     
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    As long as someone hold aggro...
     
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    Excuse me?
    Try playing with a mage.
    Venena always meteors you right after you tap impact to start the impact-finale combo ._.
    (ok point taken that you can use swift instead of smite but that doesn't mean you don't get hit with meteors)
    If you have a good tank you won't have to worry about meteors tho
     
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    Way to reduce your death counts from these:
    -Short and fast combo/skill timing to avoid damage if can't move away in time(i.e Meteor, Phantom Slash, Dive Impact
    -Like what you said. Plus, You can avoid first slap which is the red aoe, then ① Go at least 9 meters away to be safe- but remember: The further away the slap's AOE from venena is, the further you have to move away. ② Time your skill for the second slap(i.e Meteor, ps, dive)
    -Prepare. If you know you are an aggro machine, get some -aggro food. If you have -aggro equipment, go use it. If you are still targeted, move to another pillar or just move away from it. If you die, the aggro will instantly transfer to who the frick generates crapton of aggro like you aside from the tank the moment they already surpassed his/her hate value. If one suddenly dies, a good chance it'll make a domino effect. And plebs should not just gather in one area spamming long combo and sht. If all of you used long combo and one was targeted, they are all dead meat. You can't really blame the tank, unless the tank is beyond saving and can't hold aggro properly or actually died.

    A good tank can grasp the small window to cancel venena's deadly moves. But the problem you should be more wary is if someone messes up and tries to flinch the hell out of her and other stuff aside from the tank. It messes up with rhythm.

    Edit:
    Know what? I should've added this in my comment above. Silly me, sorry for double post.
     
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    As long as someone can hold venena's and the pillars' aggro. I hate getting hit while my cf charging.
     
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    yeah the atk pattern is so easy to figure outthe only way i die i if i get hit during mp charge or if my cam isnt looking at the atk or im in menu
     
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    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    I don't even die at ulti except when the tank dies suddenly and shifted the aggro to us which sucks big time, laser of doom.

    For finale, use backstep ender and swift for finale.

    Melee on the other hand, has to move to the right and left edge part of venenna enough to hit it or just parry the attack like maga, zantei for katana, cross parry for dw, meteor for 2hs. It's even easy to identify when venenna gonna slap tbh, most people just don't pay attention to its pattern and ends up being dead and say ''why me??" Lmao.
     
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    Hmmm
    For melee it's pretty easy to dodge... I don't think I've died from slap by Venena...yet. Isn't it just run when you see red?
    For finale yes backstep would solve meteor but I hate having to run back up to 12m every time I cast a finale, and swift does less damage... idk change combos depending on tank I guess
     
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    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    Better than being dead by meteor imo. Just have to walk yer way for 2 sec back to venenna rather than dying for 2 mins or more doing nothing.
     
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    Classic rant.

    Also some players don't really understand that blue aoe, not only at venena, is random and doesn't target the aggro holder. But keep complaining about aggro if died hit by blue aoe.
     
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    Venena herself is very harmless/easy except for mages, the most hated enemies are the pillars. If the tank cannot hold aggro from the pillars, I can say is either the tank fault or a mage/dw without -% aggro. I use GSW for katana on Venena ulti and having no problem when against her alone even though all of my teammates/ally are mostly dying over and over...
     
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    to make thing faster better invite tank or anyone who can hold pillar aggro so the dps can spam their brainless combo with their stand(decoy) ,if tank can't aggro pillar better kick them or find better party
     
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