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Inquiry bout Burst build

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Rizer phoenix, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Considering l am a Finale oriented mage, I wanna venture into the burst style aswell~
    What is recommended? Seeing that l want to retain maximum of my dmg with minimum input in CSPD equips [aka towards low budget/ 1s equip only] :p?
    With ns equips, l reach 3k matk,
    Risking bout 400 matk for 1k cspd, l can attain about 1.3k cspd :(
    What is the minimum requirement for a decent burst cast time?
    I know instant cast needs 6k+ cspd (..right?) so..what ‘penalties’ with lesser cspd? Like..not risking too much time(under 3 sec) in casting (..finale is risky nuff x3 )
    Considering l have all mage skills( - burst) n ‘high cycle’ for cspd, l just need those 2 right?


    Note :
    Is it worth it to get burst(neutral n not getting into the whole crit thing) ?

    Sorry for so many questions ><) new to this skill n confused since l never paid it much mind :confused:
     
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    Snowe Well-Known Member

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    you can make burst your 2nd dps
    i.e you have 2k mp
    cast 2 impact-finale (4stack burst)
    maximizer
    another finale (6stack burst)
    your mp will be 500 enough to cast impact-burst (7stack burst)
    no need high cspd (just make sure not use queen staff xD).
    or just spam javelin until enough to instant cast it.
    or just ask this dude @Aka Kuro
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I see *^*) didnt think that
    Thank u :3 I do still use storm in combo.
    So..confirming, just need burst right? Not high cycle?
    n..How does cspd effect burst aside from cast-time ..?
    Description says it depends on int..
    So if l return to ‘300 something cspd’ with 3k int, will it make a decent secondary dps skill?
     
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    With 2.4k cspd and 2stks for burst it takes about 1.2secs to cast burst. For fun i use bless, storm smite, impact con, burst smite, gsw con. Without element my storm ticks for around 52k and burst around 480k without long range mastery (i still prefer finale with 3stks of gsw)
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Oh~
    Thank u for sharing that info ^^)
    First time seeing a mage with GSW :eek:
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Im pretty sure i was 1 of the first to be a gsw mage xD. This is going back in April 2018. I definitely recommend gsw but it is situational on the boss/miniboss
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Nice!
    Its awesome seeing a mage with a different skill set than normal~
    Maybe l might give it a try someday~
    Right now..burst vs healing skill..
    which to prioritize, is my dilemma xD
     
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    I choose bless as my healing skill. Tho its nowhere near as good as heal but it helps a lil. Ill be resetting my mage skills back to just finale etc and not the burst path so ill be able to get the upcoming wizard skills
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Oh~
    Thats one of my probs too -w-)
    I am waiting/saving up for those skills x3
    Yeesh..maybe l should hold off on burst then o-o)..
    Rip..
    When it comes to making new builds/adding stuff to build, my mind becomes jumbled mess @.@
     
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    I’d say the minimum CSPD for a Burst-only mage would be 1k since it’ll reduce the required stacks for an instant cast burst by half. So it’ll take 4 magic skills for it to be instant. With 1k CSPD and maxed chain cast, an easy combo setup would be arrows > javelin(save) > impact(swift) followed by impact > burst(smite) > ender. And if you use high cycle, you can switch arrows out for any quick combo starter ^^

    also it’s better to use elemental staff/MDs to avoid flinching with javelin with this setup. And with elemental advantage I’ve been able to deal up to 700k with burst using MD. Since finale can’t ultise elements, it’d be great to take advantage of this as well if you can!
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Thank u so much!
    Now l get it :)
     
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    Emm, my original area is using general burst combo without cspd gear tbh ^^; Similar with combo suggested by wimzi (he also an toram utuber, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPMeGYxeKWW2aZUMES8awYg), I was using two phase type burst combo in old days, mine just use sonic as combo starter instead of magic arrow. However, I got a conclusion that dps gain is way higher for stacking up cspd than increasing matk (it's extremely hard for 2 phase burst combo to hunt boss fast tbh)...But anyway, following was my answer to burst without cast gear and high cycle


    Extra:
    If u r dagger mage (dagger is way better than sub md for solo since u can maintain poration more easily) u can even try
    1. spike dart>poison dagger (save) > impact (swift)
    2. impact > burst (smite) > fin (smite)

    Or if u love fighting close range
    1. smite > impact (save) > shell brk (swift)
    2. impact > burst (smite) > shell brk (save) > fin (smite)
    if u also got decoy (which is part of my 195 build I gonna release ^^;), it is pretty fun.

    To me, what make mage fun to play is not dps, is the flexibility it gives attracted me (tbh, mage dps low compare with other weapon, but it is stable)
     
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    Another decoy mage? Yesssssss. Decoy on mage is so good. With spirits tear and an extra 100ampr from other gears. Finale swift for days without mp charge. Tho burst smite insta cast would be fun too
     
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    i got gsw + decoy + ????, since u, Nive chwan and Ardella chan suggest me to do so ^^;
    i would like to collect more test info for next generation mage in lv200 :)
     
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    All that + wizard skills=a fun weird cat loving mage with crazy power who doesnt know how to stop blowing up stuff
     
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    Well, if lv3 wiz skill is strong, finale mage should be really happy but not burst mage x.x. Burst consume poration a lot so I am pretty worried that whether adding one more magic attack skill simultaneously will be sustainable... But wiz skill can definitely allow more flexibility as damage can be dealt by the cat now and mage can do other things like healing or building up poration :)
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Thank u for guiding *^*) l found your videos very helpful, but was a lil lost on which was for which x3
    I guess base 1k cspd is good with focus on matk then?
    I am a shield mage :b but l’ll find a way to incorporate that into burst~


    Btw..smite -w-; )? A skill (l dunno bout) or tag?
     
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    might be smash. seeing it's a pair with shellbreak in most builds.
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Thank u ^^)/!
     
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    yes,it's smash. sry o_O
     

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