Katana+Dagger (Assassin build) discussion

im thinking about using this skill
Triple Thrust
Description Quickly approach and thrust a target. Move behind a target when attacking. Increases the damage of the next skill a little.

before using Assassin stab, katana doesnt really have an instant teleportation like DS, i can only think to utilize this skill to get that sweet +300 power
what's your thought? i hope the discussion will give insight to anyone who's gonna build this hybrid class as free reset skill is here

lets discuss

 

Tenryu + Garyu takes a lot of patience out of me. I can't imagine adding assassin skills on top of that. Besides, attack is lowered by a lot of margin.
But the build would be cool

 

no, assassin gets more multiplier with daggers and if you use daggers on katana that depends on two handed, you're gonna basically cripple it since katana has natural low attack gain.

 

It'll take some time to work out. I've been playing around with 1h dagger atm.

And I've noticed that assassin stab has a very wide range of damage. And even with proration, and positioning I've noticed the damage can be anywhere between 8k to 200k.

In addition, Arcane strike seems to ignore defence under certain conditions... So I'm wondering if the abilities of that attack vary with initial MP investment.

But at the moment the bottom skill tree compliments Katana skills, while the top tree seems to be useful for other dagger users.

 

I like the "idea" of katana+dagger a lot but personally think it will suffer too much due to the lack of the katana bonuses from having a sub equipped. If that's not an issue for anyone then katana+dagger could still be devastating imo because of the evasion rate and use of the movement skills from both katana and assassin trees. Also katana wouldn't suffer too much because we still have the stab skills for damage. Unfortunately i think tenryu/garyou users would suffer with dagger sub. The way i see it is like bow+katana. It looks great on paper and has some decent pros but has crippling cons.

 

Hey I'm new here I was actually wondering about this and the possible downsides, then I got an idea, wouldn't knuckles benefit from the assassin skills?

 

Hi Slime-san~ yes they would ^^

 

Im a knux user and i recommend you should get backstep 1000% worth it

 

please don't use assassin skills arcane skills, that thing is bugged and they know it.......in fact suzuki P told us, and They gonna nerf backstep too

 

Backstep will be un usable with slow and stop ill agree with stop but slow? Nahh backstep is usefull in slow ailment

 

I am working my katana, for now it is pure dps katana, but i have some plan om the end of it, im making a katana+dagger tanker with a decent dmg ill follow up the update when I'm satisfied with the build

 

So I'm fairly new to the game. I started with a katana and purchased the dagger and assassin trees thinking the three together would make for an awesome combo. Then I saw the cons: katana gets two-handed buff, etc. Has anyone made a workable katana assassin?

 

As someone who also loves exploring the realm of Hybrid builds, I've made a Katana Assassin (Dagger+Assassin) and must say, it's been A LOT of fun to play.

Yes, of course pure Katana users benefit from Two Handed skill, but even without it, this build can still be viable. Timing is key for this build and takes a lot of patience.

It's apparent that DEX is the primary stat for most dagger and assassin skills, so statting Dex>Str seemed to be the logical build for this.

Personally, my primary skills were spam Tenryu and parry with Magadaichi (EXTREMELY versatile), with Quick Draw capped to spam AMPR. Godspeed Wield capped for unsheathe buff. For maximized damage, took the masochist approach and capped Kairiki for Atk buff and AMPR. Arcane Strike capped and only used when AMPR was needed. Between Shukuchi and Backstep, mobility is limitless and gives minor mp recover and buff to next Backstab used. Backstab capped for max output.

I've played around with Triple Thrust combo'd with Backstab, and while it can be powerful, timing and stability seem to be key points to making it work. I've also attempted a few combos to utilize Gatling Dagger, and so far have been underwhelmed by the results. Ive found best output by Gatling Dagger for me, was to just use as a normal skill. My Assassin is 160 currently and Gatling Dagger was averaging 15k per dagger on Venena Hard. Be mindful my gearset is respectable, but no where close to being complete.

Anyways, like I said, fun build, requires patience, versatile but high risk high reward playability. Hope this helps!