Learn Auto Attack Cancel?

does anyone know best place or mobs to learn AAC?

 

Trigger slash on DW should always be able to auto attack cancel. If i'm not mistaken, it gets easier to do it with other ways (walking back, or my favourite - impact, but these aren't consistent) as your attack speed gets higher. It's mostly the timing tho

 

There's a new way to do it using manual guard, dw using heavy armor and 2h with rampage benefits from guard auto atk cancel quite a lot

 

I'd grab a tank merc/pet, head over to a relatively harmless boss like Cerberus, empty my MP using combos, then try to regain it all back with AAC while the merc/pet tanks all their attacks.

The best class to AAC with is probably DW. They don't have to compromise their ability to Evade (Katana, shieldless 1H), require a skill to be active (Rampage for 2H), or wait for specific attack animations (Halberd, Knuckle) in order to AAC. Also, the MP they regain with each AAC is twice their total AMPR so even if you don't take into account the disadvantage other weapon types have DW will still come out on top.

 

I do aac both with my 1h+shield tank and 2hs, changing chars messes my rythm since 1hs has faster aspd...

 

Best place to learn it is alto. Can be done on dw very easily with heavy armor, 2h aswell ( I recommend remedial rampage) and also halberd with chronos drive which takes a bit more practice. Alto is the perfect test dummy.

 

Just use a weakness talisman or even the 50% one from Golden Caskets. Honestly that's not even needed I think... use a low level weapon... stat it even, with negative attributes. Then find an isolated spot with mobs that no one goes to.

To practice, hold. Wait and hold. Release hold and as fast as you physically can, hold again. If the attack doesn't connect, repeat, but slightly slower re-hold. Keep repeating until you know the interval in which the attack connects. This helps practice your muscle memory aka. your perhiperal neurology which is important for several reasons such as the touch latency on your phone, the distance between you and the mob (btw pay attn. to the distance when learning use fhe same distance ), and if you get hit while guarded (causes very short delay), having the attacked guarded, atkspd changes, changing enemies even while currently attacking another... etc.

Then, there's the other animations of the attack depending on the weapon. Learn when these begin and end. Also when you hold for 1 second when you mess up or begin, to wait for the attack animation to finish (even though you can't see it).

Honestly will be a shame when pvp comes and people report. And honestly I'd rather not share or mention it publicly. It's not because it's OP.... it just makes the combat so much more fun. Anyone familiar with Smash Bros Melee and their glitches? Using this exploit makes combat feel more immersive and at times as if you're literally executing each movement/motion of the attack... which you kind of are... Also adds more depth to combat and more stuff to pay attn. too. Compare fhat, to hitting one button and having auto execute on DW 8 swings of attacks Boring in comparison Sigh... really going to hate it when it gets fixed..... If devs are reading this... just make Rampage being to easy, and dw needs to connect its 4th swing to attain ampr and proration or w/e tbh.... and i guess make KTNs execution frame perfect..

So yeah. I personally never mention this exploit... well except this post is an exception since I'm bored.

 

This guard auto attack cancel was discovered more than a year ago if I remember right, there's already several youtube vids detailing how to do it since a long time ago. We've already gone through several maintenance since then and the devs should have seen it already, but decided not to change it. In other words, this could already be a feature that gives benefits to players who are able to master it.

 

i doubt that thing considered as feature since in recent update clash of emnity bug (100% dmg reduction) and they fix also internal elixir from gem run which completly poof elixir buff from gem run penalty (but now work normally)

which the time gap bug of internal elixir gem run penalty is from pre-barehand lv.1 release~pre-barehand lv.2 (yow wtf almost 2 years bug)

the AAC is bug but the dev is lazy to fix all bug in this game (even boss hiding in off map is still a thing)

 

The toram community sometimes makes me feel like they never played any other MMO. Literally every MMO has auto attack cancels as a feature but without officially telling you so you have to figure it out yourself. Toram is the only game I know where people are proud not to use it.

 

If it's a feature it seems truly unintended as ths devs. would specifly had set the delay

When you can get 1000 mp in a few seconds, or rather, lets say your MP gain is x20 faster, then we are talking about different things.

So your're saying in say some random MMO, each tap your execute on the keyboard will trigger and deal damage instantly, ignoring skill total activation time. So instead of spamming that key for one attack, each tap will immediately deal damage which would literally kill target bosses in less than 20 seconds at max, where as the normal average time would take 8 minutes. That's fun? F off I have more than 10 years of MMO experience since I was 12 with lets say 20k-40k hours in various games. This auto cancel is an exploit it's severely beyond the scope of the developers intentions. **** it's difficult to find the correct words and examples I'm trying to express. If I wasn't zo.tired I would,.need coffee. Sorry. I sound drunk but I'm not even lmao

 

I mean, It wouldn't be a first time I've seen a dev make a potentially game changing bug, ignore it for months or even years then just say its a "feature" after people complained about it. S4 League and its Air-Hugging bs just to name one.

 

That's so not the same as how it works in Toram.....

Edit: woops didn't mean to make another post, oh well.

 

never heard other mmo has similar exploit in toram. even in moba games dont allow you to do a unlimited frameless cancel animation things

also ever heard skill skipping from minstrel opener skill? which completely dont cast the skill opener and move instantly at 2nd combo slot(this thing is much older bug than AAC but dev still not fixing it) i think this is also feature cuz dev is not fixing it almost 2 year

 

That's a first for me, minstrell skill bug that can be skipped. Do you mean the Ad-Lib skill that ppl use as an opener? And i don't think whatever this minstrel skill bug is older than AAC "feature" since it's already been here from the the first day i play this game (around lv cap 140). Tho in the past AAC trigger is only limited to some skills, not like now when we can trigger it with guard

 

I don't think the Ad-Lib skill from minstrel was a bug. It was use as a combo opener because it has the fastest skill animation. I also disagree that it was older than AAC. I begun to use AAC since the release of DW skill tree, so how can these suppose to be bug on that minstrel skill is much older than AAC?

 

its not about speed of minstrel animation the bug is completely skip the skill animation which basically one skill smited combo method are you sure this thing is not bug?

also the thread is about AAC Guard Bug trick not Auto+Active Skill mix up Auto Attack skip animation

 

FYI the thread say "Learn Auto Attack Cancel?" If u read the first comment Lil☆Neko even mention about the trigger slash AAC trick and the thread maker NOT specifically say the AAC Guard Bug as the topic. So the thread generally talks about AAC as whole. The one that mention about using manual guard AAC was Aria as a reply to Lil☆Neko. Did u even read the whole thread?

 

Oh please show me a clip of you killing a high level boss with only auto attacks in 20s. Btw GAAC has 3.5 times more AMPR than using shukuchi autos on DW, not 20. For Rampage 2h it’s only 2.5 times more AMPR. Maybe you should try it first before you rant about it and assume things

 

In reference to other "MMOs" as you had mentioned. Anyways you were. waste of time from the beginning with arrogant attitude. /done. would be better to let this thread die as well.