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Low Budget INT-less MD Storm Farmer?

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Ewp, Mar 27, 2021.

  1. Ewp

    Ewp Well-Known Member

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    I've had it with this class discrimination, man. As I'm restarting from scratch, my LUK hb is too weak atm to farm the bubble mobs, and I can't farm jelly/nemico/EB because everyone wants md storm. I've had people leave the second they join me and then proceed to shout "lfp jelly md storm only". My only choices are solo farms or Pova/B.Nuts (hb also isn't well received in NC pts).

    I don't want to waste another slot to make another mob farmer, so is it possible to have a LUK>STR hb that can one hit storm at least the jellies near Hora without spending more than 300k on gears and xtals (it's all I have)? I'm aware that there are MATK up by STR eq, and I could utilize flat MATK+/INT+ gears and xtals as well, but Idk if it'll be enough to achieve my goal.
     
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    if you can't farm with halberd, then a MD with no stats will surely fail as well.

    stop spending points on LUK when you would need other stats more.
    the Drop Rate Up skill from survival skills gives a 10% drop rate increase at lv10.
    you need 103 points on LUK for the same effect.
    that's 9 levelups vs 51 levelups.

    also, do what you want, not what they want.
    if you want to get back at them, just equip their preferred weapon and act like you are farming. (use WCoS)
    most people won't notice what you are actually doing, they only look on the party screen, then look away.
    they will waste a party slot and you get free items.
     
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  3. Ewp

    Ewp Well-Known Member

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    Ah, I should've been more clear. I can one shot the jellies easily with my hb, at least. My problem is people don't like hb in their pt for jellies and other mobs that can be one shot by storm. So I was thinking if it's possible to have enough storm damage with md to one shot jellies without any INT.

    I currently have 255 LUK, Lv10 drop boost, and about 80~ish STR. My hb is Lv129 and I'm working on getting levels to have enough damage to one shot the bubbles, but I still need to be able to join jelly parties for med mats. Solo just takes too much time :confused:.

    I have thought of doing that, but my conscience will kill me if I ever try it :oops:.
     
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    +Aria Kanzaki+ Well-Known Member

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    If you have finished Main Quest your luk hb should have already reached around lvl 150~, that's enough to 1 shot bubble using cheap +E npc equipment from blacksmith or boss drop, it's easy to finish MQ with a good mercenary.
     
  5. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Ya want high lvl char?
    Easy, make new char n complete mq till latest and that should get ya well around/above 160 (cant say for sure since l havent made new char in quite a while), this takes a day at most [use skip alot, collect necessary items before hand and use teleport]
    That takes care of lvl.

    For build preferences, l'll be blunt.
    The Jelly area ppl prefer md farmers over hlb due to area coverage [ if you can move around n be efficient, they wont have a problem]
    The B.B area ppl prefer hlb over md since they kill fast and area is just as big as range of DI.
    The Pojo area is a mix, and as long as you can 2 shot n not die, you are welcomed, MD or hlb alike.
    The ..uh..other area with floating blue/purple(?) thingies (forgot mob name), needs both md n hlb since its wide and mob is sturdy (md lures, hlb kills)

    The idea of mixing storm with hlb will not go well l think.
    It already needs alot of investment in int and gears to just get matk high nuff to be able to one shot, with luk > str as main, nope, better stick to one build (unless you wanna build a 1s-2s oriented physical mage mixture? Thats far beyond 300k l'll add)

    Best way is to lvl first, then invest points in STR first (to get dmg) and try to get atk above 2.5k-3k
    Then invest rest in luk.
    This way, you'll have prioritized atk n luk.

    As for being efficient?
    Try n have around 2k mp,
    Either use : DI > WCOS X2 > DI
    or Go all out : DI > DI > DI > DI > WCOS (till mp full)
    Former is considered more efficient n not noticeable if you charge in between, later makes ya stand still n charge for quite a bit (seeming like you are leeching)

    I think +B weapons should be nuff to one shot most 0-160s mob?
    A standard A7(-10)Fc20(-22) with add and ring of preference should do the trick [remember, crit needs to be 100% ^^)

    With that, good luck :3
    May you encounter the more friendly ppl in toram than...picky ones x'3
     
  6. Ewp

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    I haven't finished mq on my hb yet, but I do have a Lv151 knux at I think chapter 10. I have access to tier 4 skills, thankfully, which helps a lot on mq.

    Currently using the white day event lance with 502 ATK I think? Only +6 atm. Other equipment are crt rate focused as I'd like to avoid relying on Punish Ray for mob farming.

    I am working on getting levels on my hb as mentioned, although I'm not rushing mq atm. Tryna balance mq and grinding so I can have boss drops to sell otw.
     
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    I do have a Lv151 knux at I believe chapter 10. I am trying not to rush mq on my hb as I have a few bosses I'd like to avoid grinding later on and have some boss drops to sell otw.

    What do you mean by area coverage? Shouldn't Dive Impact have a larger aoe? The 2nd hit, at least.

    What is B.B area? I just came back from a couple years of hiatus, and first thing that comes to mind is B.B. Goblin. I also don't know the floating mob. My apologies.

    Pojo is new to me. Thank you for mentioning that!

    I don't have to one shot all mobs with the storm. Just the jellies near hora. I guess it's really impossible on a budget?

    I have my hb at Lv129 atm with 255 LUK and 80~ish STR. It's a bit too late to restat (saving my restat book for when I REALLY need it).

    I can deal with a lot of mobs using Impact > Dive (cons), then WCoS once. The Quickdraw procs often enough that one WCos can sustain me for a long time before I eventually have to do two WCoS per cycle. My MaxMP's at 1.2k (with food buff, without Magiadd) and it feels fine atm.

    Currently using the white day lance+6 and have 100% crt rate with food buff. I guess it's time to work on my TEC refiner.

    Thank you! I wish you luck as well!
     
  8. Rizer phoenix

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    Why not rush mq on easy?
    When you enter boss battle, exit, n start battle at easy~
    Anyway, thats up to you.
    (Sometimes lvl counts too)

    1) Compared to md, DI hits 2 times at ranges 5m(1st hit) n 7m(at 2nd), where as md storm hit 6 times at a wider radius (8m or +) [more info on coryn club]

    2) The mob name is Bubble Angel [lvl 140s]
    (area 1-3 : Shrine of the Gods) forgot perhaps its area 2? There is a round area on map where players gather n farm (once in pt, you can locate it)

    3) The floating mob is Berylfree [lvl 120s]
    (Area is Barbaros Corridor)

    4) Pojo mob [lvl 160s] (Area is Inje village) in a slightly concealed part (again, when in party you can locate area)

    5) One thing to consider is..
    Even with budget build, hlb can kill high lvl mobs such as 180 or + (depending) (and naturally low lvl too)
    Md farmer needs more matk investment/ buffs (atleast 2.5k+ matk) to 1 shot and sometimes elemental advantage if matk is lacking.
    Consider what mob you want to farm, low lvl or high, depending on that, choose your farmer's main equip.

    6/7) ..one shot/hit (while it means killing mob in 1 hit) also means using skills without impact..hence the 1-hit..(atleast how ppl use the term in recent months)
    Like using DI/storm alone to 1hit the mob..
    Impact disrupts the target enemies of others (or stops your combo before you even get to main skill) so its preferred to use the skill alone and it is a lil faster (mp cost is same aswell)

    8) 2k mp was a suggestion~ if 1.2k works for you, thats great :3

    9) Try n get that +6 to atleast +E (easily done even at bs shops) using mithril ore (farm nemico mob in same mao as jellies)

    Personally as a Hlb luk farmer, l have not encountered any problem getting parties to farm (as far as being lone hlb in 3 mage pt '-')
    I think as long as you do your part and farm efficiently, others wont kick you (but then again, some ppl are exception)
    One way is to make your own party~
    They can't kick a leader now can they :b ?
    ...but they can abandon owo) so good luck!

    Note : You can look up builds for reference on yt, that should help somewhat
     
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    I'm aware of the trick to rushing mq, but I appreciate the advice! I'm trying to save up some mq so I don't have to grind levels on certain bosses like Seele Zauga.

    1) Coryn Club actually says 3.75m radius for staff storm 5.75m radius for md storm. Although yeah, 6 hits vs 2 hits is a lot of difference.

    2-4) Ah, I see. Thank you for clarifying! I will try my luck on these later.

    5-6) I guess just looking at storm's formula shoulda given me an idea.

    7) I actually prefer using Impact > Dive (cons, usually) cuz it lets me trigger Quickdraw more. Although, yeah, I have run into the potential problems you listed.

    9) I gotta be honest, I never liked refining :confused: it's just overall a frustrating experience for me. I used to have a friend do all the refining for me, but it's been a couple years and he prolly won't come back. I will try +E though.

    It's hard to get into parties at jellies tbh. I rarely get invites, and when I do, it's with fellow hbs that also don't get invites lol. I do invite other people, but they just straight up leave as soon as they see I'm hb, then proceed to shout 'lfp md only' :(.

    I think I'm good with my basic build, at least. I've had a LUK hb farmer before, but the class discrimination back then wasn't this bad, although less people knew about the build.
     
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    The issue with luk halberds on farming the jellies near hora is because those jellies has a very high evasion rate, even my lvl 180+ halberd with +S weapon sometimes gets evaded even though i can easily 1 hit, whereas magic skills dont get evaded, but as long as you can 1 hit them it should be still manageable, or you can just farm other mobs instead to get spina, and then just buy the medicine mats from cb if you need med mats.
     
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    I suppose that's true. I feel like nemico is much worse tho. I get evaded every other dive there if memory serves me right.

    Thanks for that suggestion! I do need a lot of med mats atm so that might be my only choice atm.
     
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    (I have a 255 INT rest LUK character who does Enough Storm Damage to onehit the Dark Jellies (Especially with Light Edgy Nova Knux) and I I just use Nature's wonders to Kill higher level mobs.)

    Annihilator gives a lot of ATK, Nature's wonders can Almost Onehit the Bubble angels But not always. Perhaps with +S Knux and more xtals I can reach the Threshold to onehit them.

    But there are more mobs with higher HP so even I proposed if a Only INT LUK farmer with a Halberd + S and Dive impact can still kill Pojo easily. Halberds have Very Very High ATK.

    I couldn't test it, but some people did, and it seems to work.
    Now that Supersonic Registlet is out, I don't know if Sonic Blade can be used as a viable farming skill. You can easily wait longer and the Super sonic blade buff won't go away.
     
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    Indeed it can. Fyi, those mobs on morga are tough. ^_^
     
  16. Ewp

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    That +S I prolly can't afford for a long time. Tho that's interesting how it works the other way around :eek:. Maybe I shoulda gone that route instead.

    Not sure about Sonic Blade. It's been 4-5 years since I last had a sword user.
     
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    I can barely do 100k atm without tons of proration :confused: Morga looks rough
     
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    Hallo guys.. any guides for hb luk>str farm?? i prefer low budget?
     
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    ..usually low budget involves ncp crafts or boss drops..so..

    Wpn : (+B or more)
    Hell Reaper (hlb) ( Event limited but OP among boss drops) (dark ele)
    Venena Meta Hlb (boss drop) (fire/neutral)
    Yozakura naginata (event limited, thou going on rn so..now is your chance if ya want one) (light ele)

    Arm :
    • Any a7fc20-22 arm
    • Or if more cheaper, then opt for HFG arm from Seele

    Add :
    • Any, depends on need (hp, mp aspd etc)

    Ring :
    • Machina ring (since its 2s) with Venena(mp) n york (atk)


    All in all..the most you'd spend is :
    1m-1.5m on ring n if ya opt for arm, perhaps another 1.5m-2m ?
     
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    Regarding to the weapon I bought in cb 5th Anniv hb +E around 150k... and has str 5% atk 5% Crit rate 11% and accu2% is that alright?
     

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