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Magic Blade Lv.4

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Balugbog056, Jun 26, 2020.

  1. Balugbog056

    Balugbog056 Well-Known Member

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    46gopk.jpg Asobimo being Asobimo
     
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    2h master race
     
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    If only suzuki clever enough to include MATK (with being limited to MD sub), they could spare all the magic knight meme they could see rn
     
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    Double damage is good, so many games out there have applied it.
    For example: dealt additional holy damage by x.
    Or maybe a skill that change effect depending on how many counter you have.
     
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    There's a t4 magic blade? Link please
    TIA
     
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    I just want asobimo to make sub md's stats counted, or at the very least the element.
     
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    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    At least it wont be such crap as the T4 of wizz
     
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    Random cat says hi
     
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    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Random crapt you mean? Yeah you are crap! Need to normal attack to activate your spellcasting :V
     
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    Oh that's not the issue, try bringing the cat to a mini boss farm :D
     
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    Disaster incoming.
     
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    familia and advance familia is different skill.
    use familia if you want to access to buff and play the imperial ray for mini boss (to avoid attacking random mobs and more mini boss)

    advance familia is useful for debuffing and minor dmg in boss (specially boss with mobs). and pure physical sub md class can take advantage aoe magic proration for multi boss (even single boss is ok but multi boss give more help)

    the most who can utilize advance familia is additional magic dps cuz all T1~T3 skill will power by MATK while your doing Max Proration via Auto Attack. (there already made additional magic auto attack 100k+ per hit)
     
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    Random, with 30 seconds in between attacks says hi lightening!
    Don't get me wrong, I did consider the utility, it's just that with lightening and meteor (lmao) there's limited point to using it for that purpose given the (lmao) randomness.
    They could've just made advanced familiar summon a familia with an appended skill rather than just being straight up random.
    What's gonna happen when the cat summons meteor and clips a mini boss half way across the map when the party is focussing on one? What if the mobs on the map are annoying as hell with ailments and the cat says fak u and drops a stupid large AoE blizzard. Lightening? Multi-boss farm? Limited use for a skill that takes 5+ seconds to drop Magic Javelin damage and +1 Magic proration? Really?
    Also keep in mind you need lv205 for this skill.

    It's bad. Nothing justifies taking advance familia when you can just combo the skills yourself.
     
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    ok lets ignore bossing cuz advance familia already advantage here cuz most of enemy there you gonna kill it anyway

    i already said just use familia if you want to use the buff itself and for imperial ray if you want to crit it. (if your not gonna do mass kill mini boss or doing 1v1 mini boss to not provoke other mobs via random aoe skill such as meteor,blizz from advance familia)

    use advance familia if your party pref for mass kill mini boss so the tank can focus for aoe aggro without attacking new mini boss (im sure meteor can 1 hit mobs if they accidentally hit) and blizzard it will only focus to your main target and nearby mobs. the tank is already nearby in your main target (blizzard zone)
     
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    Yeah but here's the million dollar question: Why bother taking the skill when you can just easily combo the skills? Especially if summoning the cat already.

    30 seconds in between attacks is too long, the randomness, even on a mass kill party is still dumb because only 1/3 will you ever get blizzard otherwise you have random cat summoning random meteors that hit random mobs or even outside the map itself. Lightening is not even worth mentioning because all the random skills have no MP cost but lightening only gives something like 1 magic proration with an absurd cast time.

    Also, 30 seconds is with 10 skill points. It's insanity to even consider taking the skill for such a minor benefit and you need lv205 for it.
     
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    It looks good in theory, but in practical use it's complete garbage. Just don't be too overexcited and think about it slowly. Heck, if meteor hits you just lost a refine. If you think 15 secs charging time for CF is fast then think again. It's slow, let alone that 30 sec random shenanigans your advance familia will pull off.

    They really flucked up tier 4 skills this time.
     
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    advance familia is useful for extra dmg and debuff while your only focusing like non wizard skill instead only getting buff via normal familia. and dont bother SP in mage cuz Mage have a lot of SP due to lack of Magic synergy in other skill tree. basically most mage have more SP compare to physical class
     
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    No, no it's not. They already furry over the whole skill tree with Imperial Ray itself. You are forced to take either advanced familia or use Imperial Ray. No mage is not going to use Imperial Ray unless they focus on finale only (which wizard skill help kill proration for). When you use Imperial Ray with cat, it cancels the cats casting in favour of Imperial Ray.
    You have 1 skill basically taking a fat wet stink dump all over the other skills, in wizard tree.

    Now, say you aren't using Imperial, you have a nice skill called meteor which basically says fak u and goes on to hit whatever the hell it feels like hitting, if it feels to do so anyway because it can basically say fak dat map and go AoE the SkyDome. When your advanced familiar takes 30 seconds to cast this then another 30 seconds... Only to randomly cast this shit again, you want to tell me this garbage is useful?

    Only Imperial Ray and regular familiar really augment or 'buff' magic skills. Blizzard is nice for farming but garbage on boss farming because bosses move a lot at higher levels. Meteor is shit. Complete shit. It's like God's anus ruptured all over the map and shit flies everywhere for free. Lightening is garbage. 0 MP fun filler garbage. Advanced familia literally made the whole tree worse for a cost of 10 skill points, quite awe inspiring really. Never knew you could mess up a skill that bad but everyday you learn something new.
     
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    most people use finale (takes 8 sec real time at initial motion using impact+finale) and mp charge+maximizer (takes 3~4 sec) in 30 second you can perform atleast 3~4 finale along with mp charging and your cat can perform random skill

    -lightning sure hit (it has also paralyze debuff which delay every boss act per 1 sec)

    -blizzard debuff freeze which boss reduce motion speed (sure hit debuff but not sure 6 hits)

    -meteor even only 1 hit can deal good additional dmg like 100k~200k per hit or more(at mid~high equip) as free (while doing like finale,mp charging)

    instead your cat doing nothing. its better use advance familia vs normal familia (even its 30 sec interval)

    if you compare commanding cat instead (you loss mp or time in command cast in cat instead use it to cast finale or mp charge)

    this also same to burst user

    i wont even bother SP management in mage lvl.180 (cuz mage have many spare SP)

    also dont forget this wizard skill is only sub skill for magic class (one of reason main magic skill vs wizard skill wont outshine in terms of dmg)
     

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