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Discussion in 'Pet/Taming' started by lelouche_zero, Apr 12, 2020.

  1. lelouche_zero

    lelouche_zero Member

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    hi just wanna ask. how to know if a tamable monster is physical or magic class?
    because i have pets with type magic atk & magic def, but settings only have normal atk.
    and i have another pet where weapon, type and nature has nothing to do with magic, but in settings have both normal and magic atk.
    so, how?
    thanks.
     
  2. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    It is only on pet app. If a pet app have magic normal attack pattern or not. For practicality and efficiency most tanks are built from apps with magic autos(yup, don't laugh at that ant, it hold better aggro and ampr than most pets.) The fact that pet that magic auto "NEVER" miss is a thing.

    For your actual question: it all lies in the attack patterns of the pet. And compatibility on attack skills.
     
  3. lelouche_zero

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    okay, so it depends on the pet itself.

    i have another question. if i give a pet (with no magic auto atk) a magic skill, is it compatible? or it won't be as strong as pets that have magic auto atk?
     
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    For skills, all that matters is its matk stat
     
  5. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Matk:
    Int stat, weapon staff md knucks, magic attack skill
    Attack:
    Attack skill, attack weapon, stat that boost that attack weapon ea: dex for bows, str for 2h etc
    Building on matk is a no-brainer(ironic since int is used) may it be dps or tank

    Now for your question: it depends on your pet app also. There are pet apps that are not compatible with magic and may display an arrow down or unusable attack pattern. It is trial and error on the get go specially on new pets.
     
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    thank you guys. really helpful. i'm trying to build two dps and two tank pets. i think i kinda messed up on one pet. i fused it so it has md and magic defense but apparently it's not magic class. so idk what to do. but thanks.
     
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    Any mishaps can be repaired by fusion(pet synthesis) check my notes on pets 102. You may notice that stone is a physical pet yet i set it up like magic dps. It is good for boss runs upto hard difficulty but struggle on nm and ult modes(it misses its its normal attacks a lot).
     
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    i read it. it has higher matk than atk. shouldn't physical pets have higher atk than matk? or is it because they can do magic skills? like the skills that depend on which (atk or matk) is higher?
     
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    Pet's atk and matk work exactly like players stats: They depend of weapon and stats. If your pet has a weapon such staff/md or higher values of int compared to str, dex, or whatever stat pet's weapon scale, then they indeed will have higher matk than atk.
     
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    if a pet has no magic auto atk, isn't giving it higher matk a waste? or would it not be a waste if we teach it a magic skill (even tho its a physical pet)?
     
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    Ofc not a waste, magic skills take matk in their calculation
     
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    okay i understand now. cool. thanks :D
     
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    If you are relying on the pet's AMPR to fuel its skills, having magic auto attacks is better. If you plan on dumping MP into it using the Pet MP Charge skill from the Taming tree (for high cost magic dps skills) then a physical pet with a magic weapon (knuckle, MD, Staff) would work. For the four buff skills, you don't want to rely on MP Charge, because the pet will just spam them in rapid succession rather than doling them out at a useful rate, so you want AMPR and thus preferably magic autos, or a pet with GENTLE nature. If your pet's main skill is Rage Attack and doesn't have good AMPR, you could pump your pet full of MP via the MP Charge skill between boss runs, and the pet will spam Rage Attack (and whatever other skills you haven't turned off) at the beginning of the battle (and you could charge it during battle), but I think that would be rather fruitless unless the pet is DEVOTED or your character/party generates low aggro. Actually, if your character/party generates almost no aggro, you could charge it with MP and let it spam 1000 MP worth of buffs or, really, anything (except maybe Stealth Attack ;))... but that is not what most would regard as a 'tank'.

    I couldn't piece together much about the specific pet you are concerned about, except that it is MD/MagDef/x and intended to be tank or dps. So that bit of babble I just bubbled . . . may or may not help. What others have said above is all good, whether it is a dps pet or a tank pet.
     
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    As one can make a douchebag pet that can trigger sensitive bosses. Stealth attack can be a very annoying ninja build(aggroless but good proration tool, can be hands free op due to overstat and high attack%) if you want a pet that you don't want to give crap mid runs it is a good choice(recommended on timid pets with long range weapons)
     
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    what if instead of mp charge skill, the pet has mp absorb? btw my pet atm is MD/MDef/Devoted. what i'm really concerned about this pet is that it is not magic class but i want the app lol. but i guess i have to sacrifice the app for the sake of a good tank pet.

    oh wow i see
     
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    Absorb MP doesn't work like Absorb HP; Absorb HP regains pet HP by damaging the monster (both normal attacks and skill attacks), but Absorb MP is just an enhancement of the MP regained through normal attacks. If you have Absorb MP, your pet will get more MP when it hits the monster with a normal attack. Magic auto attacks hit more reliably than physical auto attacks-- that is the reason magic-auto pet apps are preferred. Pets without magic autos really do have trouble hitting monsters in many situations, even if you sacrifice VIT for DEX.
     
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    Magic autos for pets=/> full crit on avatar
    Full crit graze but magic autos got it on the flat and very reliable. Many go with nature that fully utilize it like devoted for aggro% on autos and the other for reliable mp absorb and ampr boost(sorry, forgot the nature lol)
     
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    alright so it's best to get pets with magic autos then. thanks, everyone!
     
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    Most still love that doggo even if it got no magic auto.
     
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    alright so it's best to get pets with magic autos then. thanks, everyone!
    lol yup i have it because i just like it
     

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