Question about the weapon stats.

1) Atk2%, cd19,crt19,14% stronger againt ele
2) atk 7%, cd2%, cd19,crt 19
3) atk 7%, str2%, cd19,crt19
4) atck 7%, cd19 ,crt 19, 5% stronger againt ele (+90% success rate)
Which one is optimal stats for ths build (star 255, vit 50 rest on dex) ?
I need opinions, * needs to settle down my mixed feelings/dilemma

 

The first option win in a quickly test, but if you want a better analysis, i need all equipment, gears and food that you use.

 

Ele > srd/lrd > unsheath > cd > atk. ele always stronger but only on the weak ele for the type ele u have. If u just want to fight Venena, better have this stat, Water ele, 10% to ele, atk7%. why not just do normal stat like others the acd7cd19

 

You put a "2h build" tag, so I assume it's gonna be for a 2h build. If so, you don't need crit rate then. Berserk/Astute and FC armor is enough to reach 100 crit.

The best stat is most likely the usual ele, 14% dmg to ele, and whatever the rest is idk. But if you're not willing to spend that much for several elemental swords, acd7cd19 is the best.

 

Thank you for the answer but i haven't fill the stats on them yet. Just checking the best stats atm. And this type of stats need 78k of mana <3
So, i need to plan this carefully.

Btw, i thought atck is better than cd ? Having huge cd while low atk will not effective for most of build. Hmm, am i wrong ?

Yeah, its 2h/ths build. I dont rely on astute any more but solely depends on berser. I think i only have 95 crt rate ( 50 from berserk, 17 from armor, 18 from food, 5 from battle skill, 5 from katana skill (two handed). Well, i just want to be greedy this time plus its summer shell >_< . The mana is cheap.

 

You forgot base 25 No need to eat crit food too.

 

You forgot the base crit (25), so its 120.

Ele weapon is always the best, its just abit annoying to refine and slot 7 ele 2hs XD

 

When mob Def/Resistant is higher, ATK+% will be better than CD because in damage calculation ATK+% is calculate before added the mob def/Resistant. But if you have equipment like PCR that have higher physical piece, then CD+ still better than ATK+% until mob Resistant/def reach certain limit.

Unsheathes+% basically is same with CD, the reason people feel better is because currently there is no CD/ATK+10% crystal, if it’s exist, no one will use unsheathe+%. Same happen to element, but SLRD is nothing different with current available CD+ gear except those come with +10 above.

 

awww, i see. Dang me. Thank you for pointing me out

Curse me >_< . About refining maybe i will stop at +B . About making them as slotted weapon, it will be more expensive. I think i will happy with ns

I only understood the first paragraph. About the second one, I understood the first explanation about unshea % and cd (flat). If i m not mistaken flat unshea is better than unshea% . I just dont understand the second sentence. Does it mean, lets say srd stats from twilight dragon (srd/lrd/unshe +4%) doesnt effect much or not worth if you have +10 cd ?

 

Unsheathe% is way better than flat unsheathe.

 

eeeeeehhh, then why odel price down. Does katana player ditch odel and put something else as substitute (i dont know much about katana build etc)

 

Flat unsheathe is like flat ATK but only for unsheathe atk skill, while unsheathe% works like crit dmg% or other multipliers. Kat with two-handed passive skill makes kat has high ATK when crit, so you alrd have high base atk, more multiplier is better.
The reason why odelon price went down is because Anniv box, it seems to drop odelon quite a lot, I saw some stacks of odelon and other minibosses xtal on cb a week ago XD. Another reason why the price went down is because there's another Unsheathe +10% xtal (specter of death). Its just simply more supply than demand.

 

Below is the first part for phy skills damage calculation,
Full damage (physical skills) = (Base damage (for non-dual physical attacks) - DEF + Unsheathe Attack [IF the Unsheathe skill] + skill constant) * total crit damage/100 [IF crtical] *(1 + Unsheathe Attack%/100) [IF the Unsheathe attack] *XYZ

From above calculation you can see that US+ is directly added to damage, mean if enemy def is 200 and your US+100, basically mob def is just 100, is like -50% PP or additional skill constant, so guess this is why US+ is good.

For the TD xtal, let say your Damage is 1000, the calculation will be
TD : 1000*1.04*1.04 = 1081
CD : 1000*1.1 = 1100

For ATK+% and US+%, let say your atk is 1k
When enemy def = 0
ATK+10% = (1000*1.1) - 0 = 1100
US+10% = (1000 - 0) * 1.1 = 1100

But When enemy def = 500
ATK+10% = (1000*1.1)- 500 = 600
US+10% = (1000-500)*1.1 = 550

So what if ATK+5% with SRD+5%
= ( 1000 * 1.05 ) - 500 * 1.05
= 550 * 1.05
= 577.5
Even though boss with no def/resistant you still deal 1102 damage which is +2 higher than US+%.

But unfortunate currently didn’t have any gear /xtal that have both ATK+% and CD/SR/LR more than 10%, if yes odeleon or spec may no longer high demand.

 

But if you read carefully on the formula, you will found something interesting. Will there a different between CD+50% and SRD20%+CD30% ?

Example your base attack is 1000, CD is 150
CD50% = 1000 * [(150+50)/100] = 2000
SRD20%CD30%
= 1000 * [(150+30)/100] * 1.2
= 1000 * 1.8 * 1.2
= 2160

So I guess having different Damage buff is better than having all same Damage buff when both value giving is same.

 

Well, my brain is kinda melt atm. If you dont mind i have some question about it.
1) 1.04 is from unshea attack which use this formula " (1 + Unsheathe Attack%/100)" . why it needs to multiply twice ?
2) second its about the second formula " For ATK+% and US+%, let say your atk is 1k" . I didnt understand much about it.
3) the only part i m sure/understood is full dmg = phy dmg (base) - def + unshe attck (flat right ?) X crt dmg X unshea attack (% into flat)
4) I need time to understand this T_T *already got a paper and a pen
5) 1.1 , where this value is coming from ?

 

1) US+4% and SRD/LRD+4%, because you use twilight dragon xtal as example.
2) compare ATK+% and Unsheathed+%
3) err....not understand what u don’t understand....
4) same like 3
5) if 100% = 1, then 10% is = 0.1, 20% is 0.2 and 30% is 0.3.
If you want calculate 110% then just put 1.1. I just simplify the step on calculation.

 

First formula i did understand now , so 1.04 from srd and 1.04 from lrd
second formula its about cd which 1k (phy base) times with 1.1 ( i dont know where it came from)
third formula, "ATK+10% = (1000*1.1) - 0 = 1100" . what can i understand [1k from phy base times with 1.1 (unknown) ] - 0 (from target/boss def).
fourth formula, "US+10% = (1000 - 0) * 1.1 = 1100" . 1k of phy base - 0 (def) times with unshe attack (10%/100%) + 1 =1.1 . I did understand about this one.
*gasps, why formula for atck and unshea attack are different. as for unshea (dmg phy - target def) and as for atck ( dmg phy times 1.1) * i dont know to get 1.1 T_T

 

2) 1.1 is example you have CD10%, because your asking compare for twilight and CD10%
3) 1.1 = ATK+10%

For ATK+% is Base attack * ATK+%, it’s apply before reduce the mob def, but for unsheathed ATK+% is apply after reduce mob def. both is different. I’m not sure how to simplify the explanation.

2h attack calculation =(level+weapon ATK+STR*3+DEX)(1+ATK%/100)+flat ATK
Unsheathed is like show before.

 

Dang it.... now i understand T_T and cd50% vs cd30% srd 20% does it mean we need try to balance it in order to optimize the damage output ?
lets say i have 9 cd% with 1k of attack against 7cd %, srd 4% also with 1k of attack.
9cd% = 1k X (150+9)/100 = 1590
7%cd srd 4% = 1k X (150 +7)/100 X (1+ 0.04 )= 1632.8
I hope i do the calculation right. Thank you for teaching me @AliceYvne ^_^

 

From the formula by data miners, it’s should be correct.