1. Welcome to the Toram Online Forums. Please make sure to read our rules and be friendly to all our members.
    Click here to read the rules before posting.
    Dismiss Notice

Questions about Standard Equipment and Stats

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by LilEmperor, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. LilEmperor

    LilEmperor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2020
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm planning various characters out on Coryn to start working towards and I'm trying to get a sense of standard "best" equipment practices. Could someone correct the following things if they're wrong.

    1. For Magic Users INT and MATK are the most important stats.
    2. Best equipment is +S and 2 socket, except 2nd weapon/shield doesn't benefit from sockets, just +S.
    3. 2nd weapon doesn't benefit from stats other than ATK, but shield does benefit from the stats it has? I've always been confused on that point.
    4. Physical damage users most important stats are Critical, AMPR and ATK (and their respective damage linked stat). Critical up to 100%?, ATK as high as possible. How much AMPR is needed?
    5. Best Player made weapons are generally 4th anniv weapons. (Except knuckles and magic device it seems)
    6. Best player made armor is anniversary festive garb, but it's not very common. Heaven feather garb is 2nd best and easier to find on consignment board.
    7. A general best special equip are the dark talisman items. Particularly magic and power. For Magic and physical users respectively.
    8. I can't seem to find standard additional equips, maybe the tyrant items? Shaved ice Hat seems to be popular for physical users. Tyrant grievance for magic. What does everyone recommend for additional and special +S 2 socket equips?
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2020
  2. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2016
    Messages:
    2,109
    Likes Received:
    2,084
    IGN:
    Yunananan
  3. Zexxen

    Zexxen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2018
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    110
    IGN:
    伝説のZexxen
    Sub-weapon effect:
    Dagger
    - No penalty
    - All stats apply, unless they are restricted (some daggers have special stats for bowgun only)
    - Dagger ATK only applies to dagger skills and evasion attack, not assassin skills

    Arrow
    - DEF/MDEF -25%
    - ATK and Stability applies fully to bow and half to bowgun

    Shield
    - ASPD -50%
    - DEF adds to DEF/MDEF like armor

    Knuckle
    - MATK -15%
    - All stats are ineffective
    - Skill bonus for knuckles (if main weapon doesn't get bonus) but not for martial mastery and the other passive skills

    Magic Device
    - ATK -15%
    - All stats are ineffective (with exceptions)
    - Element and Refinement value apply to certain magic blade skills
    - Skill bonus for MD, only if main weapon is not staff, but not for magic mastery

    One-Hand sword
    - DW penalty (don't remember, something with aspd and critical rate?)
    - Skill bonus for DW
    - ATK, Element, Stability and Refinement value apply to auto-attacks and DW skills, but stability and refinement value is halfed

    Katana
    - No penalty, but only available for bow
    - All stats are ineffective
    - Skill bonus for katana skills except mononofu mastery

    Thanks to people in the forum (I forgot who the one that sent this to forum, I think its red fox? idk but thanks)

    Yep 100% critical rate should be enough, but some bosses have crit resist these day around 15-30, so its best if you have conditional/situational gear to keep your crit at 100%. ATK is important but you also need some dmg multiplier (cdmg, unsheathe atk, short/long range damage), but stacking 1 multiplier is also not good, it reduces the effectiveness. AMPR is depends on your preference, with decoy or without decoy, short-long combo or just short combo with high mp cost, you gonna know how much ampr you need as you keep playing your character.

    I'm not sure what you mean by best for armor, if its based on DEF yeah Festive is the highest DEF for player made armor. Well, In my opinion its gonna be Heaven Feather Garb because the recipe is always available and now we have lvl 4 crafting skill which boost the maximum potential you can get when you craft equipment, meanwhile Anniv festive garb recipe is no more here and released before lvl 4 craft skill. Having more potential on armor make stating easier.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  4. Zexxen

    Zexxen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2018
    Messages:
    176
    Likes Received:
    110
    IGN:
    伝説のZexxen
    As I mentioned before if these day you need more situational/conditional gear. Lets say you're DW, you can use SOTH but when your opponent is tumble-reactive you have to change ur SOTH to Heaven Feather Headband or york pendant (similar stat but with tumble unavailable), maybe if you need crit against crit resist bosses you can use Bear Hat (ATK5% crit15), or have to all out atk against high def bosses you can use Ice cape (atk5% physical pierce10%) or any ATK6% additional.
    That kind of thing also applied to Special gear. There's no way to find the best overall gear, its gonna be handier if you have so many options to play with.
     
  5. LilEmperor

    LilEmperor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2020
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thoughts on additional equips and special equips? Those are the two things I'm having trouble deciding what to spend millions on. They all cost so much.
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2020
  6. Zezusa

    Zezusa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2018
    Messages:
    453
    Likes Received:
    268
    IGN:
    Zezusa
    You’re basically asking ppl to give you their build without asking them directly, honestly playstyle matters and two players with a similar build will use some different variants because of play style ..... so it’s either power , survivability or adaptability , your pick tbh , there are so many combinations so telling you just one may not do you justice . I have seen ppl make expensive builds and are disappointed with the results . So it’s better to gradually make your build, adding or adapting to it as the need arises as you level. That’s what I did and it worked for me.
     
  7. Quit toram

    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2016
    Messages:
    1,217
    Likes Received:
    961
    I'll be completely honest here, I think someone here bought spani.
    Machina Ring best special gear, comes default 2 slotted.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  8. Rydalis Darx

    Rydalis Darx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2015
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    533
    IGN:
    Rydalis
    You are correct
    But I disagree since I refuse to use it
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  9. Quit toram

    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2016
    Messages:
    1,217
    Likes Received:
    961
    I wasn't being totally serious about it being the best lol
     
  10. VangNir

    VangNir Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2018
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    103
    IGN:
    VangNir
    It's the best for cost performance ratio.

    Personally, i like dark talisman resist.
    I prefer 10% resist than 3% m/atk
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2020
  11. Zezusa

    Zezusa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2018
    Messages:
    453
    Likes Received:
    268
    IGN:
    Zezusa
    I have like 4 of those lol, it’s the best for budget builds though ...... I always wanted to farm the dark talisman but I wanna capmy halb so I can farm for it , plus it’s not always easy to get a pt there T_T
     
  12. Quit toram

    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2016
    Messages:
    1,217
    Likes Received:
    961
    Same, but for 2s, both are around the same expensive price of 40m ish, and I don't think either 10% resist or 3% atk is worth the extra 40m you spend. So yes, I'd rather use Machina Ring.
     

Share This Page