Sad thing about knux and mages

First im not a main knux user to rant/drama why knux mostly discriminate by meta-slave user. second yes i play mage but a non mage should not able to cast magic normally (even heck comparing it by typical rpg like dragon quest/final fantasy they need something help like materia,magicite,crystals,vocation job to access magic if your not a mage)

Knux
-Lower output (compare to all class)

-Should be Fastest DPS to compensate of being lower output (yet GSW kill it by giving possibility to all other class especially THS with High Raw Power that should be the Slowest DPS since it rely only on brute force) i know GSW have a drawback one hit delete but they should let alone AGI class only is the fast dps type

Mage (Staff/MD and Sub-MD)
-thanks to decoy all physical class can do 24/7 spam even without auto attack (while maximizer need pause to gain mp. fun fact you can cast 24/7 finale non stop with decoy as long its active) not much mobility boss in this game and most tank keeping boss in one area. they should let mage type class only has a fastest recharge and highest mp pool in the game

-being all class able to cast magic skill tree without magic tool is too retard (while some physical skill can easily imitate like dive impact using staff since that skill only do a jump attack to produce large impact or earthquake aoe) one of the best contradiction if this game is class-less system

 

Well, yeah but ofc, Staff and MD gets a bonus to Skill constant and multiplier, so other classes can't really use it as another DPS skill. Not to mention you have no reason to get INT if you're not a Magic Class.
But if the issue here is Magic:Impact, then yeah what you said would make sense

 

• Let's throw Damage out the window.
• No, Poison Dagger needs INT for Poison damage. If Asobimo fixes this so that it deals a bit more damage then poison builds would work on too much action doing bosses.
• Bless Heals based on INT.
• MDEF increases based on INT
• It is less useful, but there are some reasons to take INT.

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How to improve INT then

• Make Enchant Sword scale with INT
• Have an intelligence cap for using tier 3/4 magic skills. (A thick headed swordsman with 1INT shouldn't be able to perform impact/finale)
• Make INT affect accuracy multiplicatively : HIT = (DEX × INT/100)

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One more thing

• While other classes have something useful to take from Magic and Martial trees, they can't really have anything from other skill trees.
• Staff should be able to perform some Halberd skills, albeit with less damage/stability, except for Punish ray, which it can perform better than Halberd without cast time
• Power wave and MPc+Maximizer are useless in the same branch. One facilitates better and safer AMPR, while other eliminates the need for AMPR. Move power wave somewhere else.
• Magic should be able to use decoy better than non Magic Bow users. Make Staff and MD affect decoy to be elemental, and decoy damage is much much greater.
• Make a skill (or modify Chakra) such that it converts MATK to ATK for 10 seconds. This allows Magic Users to use skills like Chariot with ease. (10 Multiplier lol)

 

Putting restrictions on skills acquired with the amount of stat invested should be implemented just like what the dude said above me. Just like how other games put restrictions on an equipment which strictly requires a certain amount of stat in order to equip it.

1 int class that can use tier 3-4 magic skills sound illogical and dumb at the same time. This will surely kill meta builds if they implement this.

 

Other DPS build have to take more risk that they can't equip a shield.
Knuckle and Staff build is good survive and stable to play.

And if you continue to play enough, you will find the way to fit your way.
My friend can do 2-3m for glorai punch and 4-5m for finale, while other meta dps build keep dying by 1 hit.

 

even comparing it to sturdy type. they still outclass unless they make knux unique of speed type unit (so they can perform more attack compare to other class)

something like knux can do 3x chariot vs that 1h/2h 2x meteor in same interval (so even knux is outdamage they can catch up in heavy damage dps such as 2H)

if decoy is not ampr machine, mage maximizer will not get behind because a most stable damage finale 2.5m~3.5m (if you balance the crit build because 5m finale crit build very low MCR) while ths meteor can reach now average 1.75~2.5m (meme build can reach 3m meteor), while 1h+shield can reach 1.25m~1.75m

Note : this output is high end build

in 1 Finale = a decoy spammer can cast 3 meteor even without GSW

 

Every physical dps class can abuse both impact and the tier 4 mage ultimate skill: finale while mage can't even use the lowly moeba shot skill. You also need to get 400% crit rate so your magic can always crit. On top of that, mage has very very very slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow animation you feel helpless against aoe and you aren't even sure it's going to hit if the boss jumps a lot. And finally Finale has high mp cost of 1600 while the Crossfire only cost 0 fucking mp while dealing more damage.

But yeah let's give Bow Satellite Arrow and give mage this shitty Tier 4 Wizard skill . I don't think Asobimo cares about Mage at all.

 

yea huge power creep in bow. a meme build of bow now can deal 10m in DY , and Sattelite Deals 1m per hit (total of 3m) while being able to move and not worrying about mp because of infinity 12m radius of decoy.

while mage can only do 3x finale , include maximizer , resonance is more than 30sec interval (even with GSW)

comparing it to CF+SAT that already spam both casted 4~5 times or more around 30 sec interval (2~3 STK CF) and can completely move in any area

 

Not to mention investing in CSPD, if you want to go Burst Route just so you can try to catch up with dps pacing fk meta in a party. Its also torture trying to sustain Auras bscause that's what Burst Mages need. Burst may give give iframe but is too unreliable and no point in trying to iframe with it cuz one wrong timing automatically leaves you dead or losing auras which is time consuming to recast.

 

Also spewing random damage numbers is useless.
Please mention at which boss, and with how many goddamn drugs buffs you had.

One can't use 3x Chariot if said person doesn't have enough MP. It's 500 MP.

It's easy for THS, Katana and DW to set up decoy/go near boss due to Invincibility skills/Zantei . Knuckle doesn't. We have GodHand which doesn't even block Fractional.

 

i already play 1H+Knux (without relying any i-frame skill and berserk is always on which make me more vulnerable to damage) and i rarely died in Venena Meta (even ppl tumble last phase i always survive because of lethargy). the only real deadly boss i know is Genspent II and Pattisia Last Phase

and having decoy you can non stop cast impact+chariot or other skilll (normally knux can spam more vs non agi class)

and mostly i use only potion buff is giga,magi,penetrating oil (which is very cheap). i only tend use strong/expensive potion buff if im gonna do a gemrun to playsafe

Lastly Knux can use Shield to reduce more damage and guard all frac (to more confident close enemy even you get hit)

 

Comment wasn't directed at you, just in general.
It's just too difficult to place or maintain a decoy at all times on mobile bosses.
And spamming Chariot just negatively affects Proration. I spam in some throwing knives in between each to reset

 

I thought that wizard's tier 4 will make staff mages more efficient, but no, it's just a skill with a fancy effect if you didn't commit to full buffs; motion speed, element stuffs, and cspd. I expected the cat to cast it's own damage-dealing skill but they gave us another irl luck-based advanced familia.
If magic blade's tier 4 will be also quite like this, another luck-based mechanics will burn down the hopes of more efficient mages XD

 

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