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So i used quick motion aura with 3k aspd

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Kaisyl, Aug 8, 2020.

  1. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    I cant play a base aspd brawler without feeling disgusted.

    Seems that for multiple boss runs, this is sustainable with sub MD only?

    I have no used item aspd buffs but i assume i can hit 10k aspd pretty easy with them.
     
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    The Brahmnic Boy Well-Known Member

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    What is exactly your question?
    What do you mean my a base ASPD brawler can't sustain without MD?
    Magic Device stats don't affect Main weapon. MagicBlade skills - Resonance buff is Random, however it does give 1000 ASPD with +S refine.

    If you really need motion speed Rush is a pretty good option. Are you wearing Light armour?

    Quick Aura and GSW help too.
     
  3. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    No questions here, just a fun thread.

    It's so stupid easy to get aspd with quick motion aura yet you need massive MP regen to sustain it over multiple battles, meaning Maximizer is needed or stpud high AMPR because quick motion cuts ampr.
     
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    I use quick motion with my Knuckle/MD as well. ^^ but yes...I think it only really benefits a long-ranged chariot-based build with MD sub. The AMPR punishment and MP cost is too high.
     
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    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    That's why you let the support class cast it for you. Quick motion isn't really a must for brawler. ^_^
     
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  6. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Its not but it is the fastest method to 10k aspd. Otherwise, knux needs some aspd buffs. I understand fully the need for them now, with this much aspd, low atk power doesnt matter as much.
     
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    If what you need just a CAP on motion speed, GSW Is much more better and mana saving, because Knuckle now can easily get 6400 ASPD with buff/crystal, 6400 is 30% Motion speed, with 1 GSW already can have 40% motion speed, 2 GSW will reach the CAP already.

    if you use combo like GSW > Impact > Rush, you already can get 50% motion speed, then you can swift to using Slide>Impact>Rush for 1 MP DPS / or just simply auto attack to MP regen.

    then now you can spend on AMPR boost like foods buff / consumables item / avatar.
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    That's actually pretty good, but for me, I'm not about 100% damage so the auras work out better for me especially given how brave aura is included.

    I can see this working for builds which use AMPR tho or even builds which have to take a conservative approach because no MP recharge.
     
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    AliceYvne Elite Member Elite Member

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    Aura become difficult to sustain especially in multi boss battle or high difficulty boss...

    I did have a brave aura build before, but when challenge certain boss, it’s turn out I just keep casting brave aura and wasted time and mana. So...get a party with aura would be better.
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    I see the same thing happening now actually, it's even worse when soloing and the boss spams normal attacks like Repthon.

    That's another thing they have to fix (or remove entirely...)

    At Kuzto, using aura is just impossible with the add mob spawns.

    Ill check out GSW but I really don't like the resistance drop, makes it the same story with auras only in that GSW is for HP instead (take like 2~3x? DMG).
     
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    I would prefer losing the effect of an aura when getting hit rather than dying even if it’s from a weak attack ^^; I think you’re making the right choice by using quick motion with MD sub because not only is the risk less, but everyone else in the party can also reap its rewards which means even in higher difficulties where your damage will be inevitably lower than most(because knuckles...) you can still benefit the party through some support skills.
     
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    AliceYvne Elite Member Elite Member

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    -70% resistant per stack for none HB, so it’s about 1.5x damage for first stack only. As long as you didn’t use more than 2 stack, normal hit won’t kill you instantly except you have only 2-4K hp only.

    I try my Bow with GSW in anniv 5th event with only 6k HP, except the bear Body Slam, alpoca split and potum deadly aoe, 1 stack will only take about 3-4K HP only. When come to get 2-3 stack GSW only will cause instant dead. Maybe can have a try on small account.

    Believe me, even with Maximize you still won’t have enough mana to spend. After free reset I removed the Brave Aura, it’s did shorten about 15-25% times spend in solo battle, perhaps it’s because I don’t need to spend time on evade and cast Aura.
     
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    Well solo battles are definitely a way different scenario. I don’t usually use auras in solo battles either for that reason. It’s in parties where I find that they shine and I don’t personally have issues with MP management using quick motion/brave aura and maximizer. In the end it all depends on your preference or play style though ^.^ Both involve taking a risk/penalty for a specific reward and it depends on which you would rather take. I would rather risk my MP than HP but some may rather risk the opposite and that’s fine too! ^.^
     
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    I tested using auras in solo battles successfully against bosses like Maton Sword and Finstern.



    Against those two bosses I had luck really because Finstern did not normal attack and Maton just did not use the full map AoE. In either circumstance, I find the battles much easier if I simply forgo using brave aura and remain with quick motion aura only because when solo, using high burst damage skills like Goliath and Finale take waaay too much time for little return as I have to Maximizer after every burst of that combo. They are good as a finisher set though, drop finale, maximize magic proration and unleash goliath right after.

    Finale is a special case because with the aura, I get enough ASPD and motion speed to use it on smite with lesser risk of being hit and even if hit, the most I lose is just a penalty to AMPR rather than a potential 1hko when a large enough red zone drops on me. Because I only have 100 INT, using finale on swift is a complete waste. Can't even 1hko Minotaur with it. Other magic skills have no point.

    The MP cost is high but then again, it is a team support aura which I rather have for instances where I party with others.

    I need to work out some combos for mini-bosses tho, when solo, the normal mobs are a huge problem as I use Impact... but otherwise, the speed at which I can take them down with quick motion aura is amazing.
     
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    Your finale damage seem like higher than your rush/chariot damage......
    You can try sonic/ether flare/maximize > impact(save) > Bwork(Swift), then only cast aura, so you can save half of the mana.

    Magic:wall level can 100% knock back all monster that target on you, but I not sure what if they use dash skill.

    and ya, stupid slide bug....
     
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    I have 9k aspd with my knux shield
    No gsw/berserk no tera speed pot.
    I can do 10k aspd
    Doing 400k-500k impact rush combo
    And max of 1m on goliath
    Tho the items made me poor since im using tww+volga but i gueas its worth :D

    Tho knux ampr is still shit tbh
     
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    [​IMG]
    Atlast a non broken picture
     
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    Finale was heavily prorated and on smite tag :p

    Otherwise, im still working on the combos. A combo to halve the cost of auras might come from chariot most likely.

    Sonic > Chakra (save) > Impact (consec) > Chariot (Smite) > Breathworks (consec)

    2 MP combo but useful for getting auras off or organizing to charge a goliath finale combo.

    Wall is a skill i really want but cant afford to take right now due to some stuff im I'm testing. If anything, i might be able to work godhand into a combo for boosted burst damage when in parties.

    I gave up on trying with knux ampr. You either take decoy, use arcane strike or use MD and Maximizer.

    That's insane damage tho, tested on don yeti/alto?

    Is this unbuffed aspd? That's insane dude but with STR, the crit damage, i understand.

    Most i get is 200k from rush but finale can go 400~700k on normal with proper proration. I have a more supportive orientation tho because I really dont like STR or raw damage over utility.
     
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    It was tested on alto tbh but the max dmg i achieved int venena is around 400k in ulti (no ss since i was grinding for lvl that time)

    I only used quick aura in that photo. No giga/ tera speed.

    I have no choice but to use decoy on this one

    Im a lili bit squishy and im still hesitating to move 50 points from str to vit for more survivability.
     
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    Just gem stargem from CB, I think is about 300-400k.

    Can all knuckle player here make a video that using latest gear and selected boss...so can have a comparison on AMPR, survivalist, damage or other....can’t get too much knuckle build in YouTube..Most of the latest build is KN-MD..for farming purpose....
     

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