So mage crit are str?

Greetings Im back from an hiatus and I found that magic skills are actually doing pretty decent crit rate despite of not having str or crit stat? Now mage needs str for crits or how anyone know how many for a good crit rate?

 

I just dont use crit rate at all with my int str finale mage. I just rely on luck for landing crits. And also on finstern, finale usually auto crits when on low health so i dont put any crit rate at all. Also Dex stats doesn't do much with finale.

 

Thats doesn't respond my question too much hehehe. So crit is more advisable than str or how?

 

INT>STR, 247 STR the truth is there are certain weights for CRT and STR that lead to highest average damage output depending of your equipament, but 247 STR works just fine for all equipament setups

 

I think putting all your stat into STR is better than DEX or CRT. For how many crit rate is good enough? I really don't know, I just don't put crit rate on my mage, use the same old mage gear setup and ultimately rely on luck for landing crits. maybe im wrong with the crit rate part but it works for me.

 

People going for sub DEX are for insta cast burst, I mean DEX gives Cspd in the first place. STR is also good for mages because it gives Stability and Cdmg at the same time if ever you try to build Magic crit Mage or a hybrid physical + magical damage class.

 

I forgot the burst build but yeah you're exactly right. The only downside that I see going for DEX instead of STR is that cspd isn't 1k but you got Spell Headphone for that so no problem at all.

 

There is a bit of probability theory which explains why neither full CRT or full STR are best choice but instead it's a combination of those stats.

Regardless of math behind, it isn't hard to understand that doing a bit less of crit damage for critting more often leads to higher overall damage than purely relying on luck for the full crit damage. At least hitting a bit higher once for every 16 hits looks cool on yt videos, I guess.

 

aside stab in str (staff)

STR = give u high crit dmg (but no consistent)
CRT = increase proc crit consistency (if you have curious dress you have instantly 50% MCR Rate at 255 CRT)

 

Well based on experience I landed more crit than you suggest. Some bosses like finstern just do auto crit when they are low in health,
Im getting 5m+ crit finale there quite constantly and beating other uber dps like hb ths or bow. Some people really ask for my build but they just dont believe me when i told them i dont use crit rate at all.

 

Finstern always criting past 50% when interrupted isn't something surprising at all. You could do similar claims to Tuscog or Sapphire Roga red phases. It isn't the build which does this to them, it is simply how they behave.

Was this meant to be surprising among toram's playerbase?

 

Haha I also feel that my crit finale is constantly hitting, but ur argument that u constantly crit based on ur experience was logically & mathematically baseless. We're just lucky enough to make are finale crit with low crit rate, that's all into it.

 

Because i told them Im always criting but I dont hv crit rate which doesn't make sense to them but yeah thats how finstern behave I guess.

Nope I really do crit all the time when finstern goes low in hp. Its not luck at all.

 

finstern have special mechanics all magic can crit even not having spell burst and give initial high chance of MCR (dont know exact value). thats why your finale tend to crit in finstern even without investing CRT stats. (i heard rumor having low CR in finstern have higher chance to inflict crit magic)

 

Oh I see, then ur argument that ur finale constantly crit only works on certain bosses, like the one that Insane23 has mentioned.

 

So about Mage Crit, You only need Full INT for Finale, after that you have 3 options on what path you want to take:

INT>DEX = Pure Matk Finale, you'll have low CR and CDMG but your base finale dmg will be good even if you didnt crit.
INT>STR = High CDMG, Low Crit Rate (You can also use equip stats to compensate, but you need flat crit.)
INT>CRT = High Crit Rate(Crit more often and more consistently. you benefit more from CR% stat), Low CDMG(since no STR to increase your base but equipment can compensate for this.)

At the end of the day you choose what you want. Mage isn't like the other meta builds out there where everybody is basically all the same. Copy Paste builds. With Mage you can be creative and choose what you want to take and not take.

About the constant crit of bosses, I have heard of this thing called negative crit condition. It's like Crit resist but the other way around. Their crit resist becomes negative, thus You can crit more often. In fact, mage can crit even without Spellburst.
One example of this is Tuscog when he's pink.