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Support mage with burst

Discussion in 'Mage' started by VangNir, Feb 3, 2020.

  1. VangNir

    VangNir Well-Known Member

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    These few days, i thought a build theory.
    My guildmates wanna make a support build, but his pt always complain about him being a leech because of lack of damage.
    So i thought if i wanna make a char full of aura buffs, why not make a burst mage as well?
    This is low budget build that i scraped at coryn.
    http://coryn.club/stat_calculator.php?code=71345e38b834c55f8

    I choose to add critical because burst mage don't need long cast time like a finale mage.

    One cast of impact finale smite need approx 8s, and finale swift need 6s (tested at mino). U can't build crit finale without your pt member support for this reason.

    Surprisingly, this build give exactly 5,5k cspd with spell headphone buff. It will make burst only have 1s cast time with one magic stack.
    Also with 134 crit and 197 cdmg, it will generate 67 mcrit with weaken debuff (2/3 attack will crit). 33 mcrit without weaken debuff.
    If you have +b element md, it can give additional 65 crit from resonance (magic blade skill). Effectively give 50 mcrit without weaken debuff (100 mcrit with weaken)
    Main combo : elemental slash> burst (smite) > impact (con) (6-7 mp). we need around 1s cast time to let pt member prorate.
    Or
    elemental slash> impact (con) > burst (smite) > finale(smite) (6 mp).

    The main focus of this build is to support your team. You'll often find that you are busy dodging boss attack with this build.
    Any thought for improving this build?
     
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    Aka Kuro Well-Known Member

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    Fatal error: CRT bonus of certain magic will only be triggered when the boss is weaken AND THAT CERTAIN MAGIC IS IN BOSS WEAKNESSES ELEMENT i. e. it won't work if ur staff is neutral
     
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    VangNir Well-Known Member

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    It said only md that need weakness.
     
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    weakness md to 100% trigger weaken debuff but the weaken effect itself need weakness element also according to the official note when weaken is first out
     
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    Then i'm wrong in many ways. :(
    This is an absolute luxury build more than hb. Anyway thanks for correcting me.
     
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    outdated.

    after the skill adjustment magic critical is independent of elements.
    the infliction rate of Weaken on Element Slash is 10% (1% per level) and is multiplied by 10 if the sub MD has the advantageous element.
     
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    How about the rate after adjustment? I mean the magic critical transfer rate of weaken.

    Are you sure that magic critical is independent of element?
     
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    magic critical rate/damage gets a 0.25 multiplier with Spellburst and 0.5 with Weaken. both can stack for a total of 0.75.
    this is independent of element or weapon.

    sub MD element only affects the trigger chance of Weaken on Element Slash, and the skill's element.
     
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    uhm, could you please have a check on this experimen? I just took this today and seems that weaken still rely on element.
    Fire element: lil empress sword (crt+25), fire element md, player craft arm (crt+20), shaved ice hat + warmonger + gespenst 2 (crt+20+6+10), time warp + Seele Zauga (crt+15) + food (crt+22) = 25 (base value) + 25 + 20 + 20 + 6 + 10 + 15 + 22 = 143
    Neutral: 25 (base) + 100 (toy hammer) + 20 (arm) + 22 (food) = 167
    P. S. both spell burst and element slash are lv10
     
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    interesting. perhaps it does get a bonus from elements.
    anyway, upon first release it was completely element-dependent and impossible to trigger on neutral mobs.
    when spellburst was released, it was bugged so that the effects wouldn't work together.
    after the skill adjustment, the conditions were supposed to be eased (values unknown, as usual) and the bug was fixed.
    at that time i made another magic blade character (without spellburst) and it was possible to trigger magic critical with Weaken regardless of element and even on neutral mobs. :confused:
     
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    So, main weapon element does affect weaken crit rate.
    But with only 143 crit, if weaken hit successfully, it become 100% crit. So you don't actually need a really huge amount of crit.
    Maybe it will be a problem against high difficulty boss coz they dodge a lot, but it actually still okay. (Coz physical can graze but magic can't)
    And thank you for the trouble of doing the experiment. You're great.
     

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