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Tank: 1H Sword + Shield (LVL 150 cap)

Discussion in '1-Hand' started by athena__, Jul 17, 2016.

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Is this tank good?

Poll closed Dec 15, 2017.
  1. Yes

    66.0%
  2. Its ok

    30.7%
  3. Nah

    3.3%
  1. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Hohoho guardian is so much better than sanctuary now
    It reduces dmg, increases guard rate, and increases aggro!!!
    I am so glad i save 10sp for it.
    ms.athena should definitely get it
    Very good for all pure tanks
     
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    Its actually worse xD tho it would probs be best saving Guardian then having sanctuary swifted, sanctuary still decreases more dmg
     
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    Can someone make a video explaining the effect of both new shield skills with detail? So I know what to do with my tank build too.
    (I mean, being retired there's like really no use for me to level up to 110, so if someone is so kind to demo the skills, I'd thank it a lot.)
     
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    Alright... I tested it with my friend
    Aggro boost and guard boost/atk nerf acts on the caster
    While dmg reduction works only on pt members
    The increased guard rate made me feel as if it reduced dmg
    Around 50-60% reduction on dmg my friend got around 339dmg without buff and 149dmg from gs final with buff my shield refined +C
    Also the icon for guardian appears on his screen but he cant see the yellow ring
    This truly is a skill for a pure tanker its kinda useless if u wanna solo.
    Thats @@Ayame@ test within a pt, so i guess from that it means tanks have to use Sanctuary whilst others get the Guardian but i think its only 5m so tanks will have to tell them to stay close if an aoe comes up and fails to interrupt, tho considering how small alot of aoes are i dnt think it would be needed unless we see map aoes like yelb but deal alot more dmg, tho definitely worth having if u use a shield and wanna swift skills
     
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    I do think it is a skill suited for my tank, which is 0% offensive and 100% defensive. One thing to ask, you said the skill has an aoe with 5m radius. Is the aoe visible for the others?

    Ah, and what about the skill after Shield Cannon?
     
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    Not visible to others, also at lvl 10 with a +5Shield that skill was countering for around 1k so i think that skill will just be optional, it might be better with good atk and high refine shield with decent guard rate, if atk even affects it anyway
     
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    In what way does the skill level affect? Perhaps it could be convenient to leave it at Lv1 and use it just for the utility of the 600 MP saved... I plan on swifting Heavy Smash. Short, fast and colossal aggro combo.

    Opener > 600 MP saved > Shell Break (cons) > Heavy Smash (swift) > HF (swift) and just spam. 1500 aggro points inside 100 MP with fast enough repetitions to keep it going.
     
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    Im assuming lvl affects the aura range and the % of the effects, if ur just using for the save tag then lvl 1 is all ud need, im kinda liking the idea of kick, guardian save, impact con, hs swift and then 4mp left over for anything
     
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    The blue icon(like the yellow and purple icon from protection/aegis) appears below their mp bar but they can not see the yellow ring around me
    I did a little test 100auto atks from gs before buff and after buff with lvl10guardian
    By counting each guard out of its 4atk combo i guarded 42atks without buff and whooping 79atks with the buff
    The guard rate boost is no joke its like the guard equivalent of reflex
    For skill lvl guard strike:-
    I think for guard strike its just dmg boost us brawler tanks need to wait till dex can be added to and thrash drillz coz the cdmg nerf from drillz applied on it after this skill can definitely add some dps with a good refined shield and guard buff from guardian
    For skill lvl guardian:-
    Each skill lvl added 10sec to the aura/buff
    Each skill lvl added range of the aura 1m for lvl2 and 1m every 2lvl after that it was 5m at lvl10
    At lvl10 the skill remains at 600mp
    I will assume it increases the buffs which is aggro/guard rate by every lvl too
     
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    Btw while we are at it does anyone know if the proc rate of lethargy on hs increases with lvl? Its the only possible way to reduce fractional dmg so i am thinking of getting it to at least lvl5 if not lvl10
     
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    I believe it does also sanctuary can reduce fractional too but causing lethargy is still a decent way to decrease it
     
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    I doubt on that thing a bit coz many fractional atks are actually fatal(always considering max hp%) and it said it can not reduce fatal atks,
    According to your description it reduces by 95% only if the dmg is very low compared to your max hp, but even non fatal fractionals(that consider current hp%) like do very high dmg when your hp is full so it wont reduce it that much? :/
    Though idk i never tried sanctuary tbh for me support skills are better of for a supporter mage build since some of them require cspd, which i plan on making one soon if i get enough time
     
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    Ive managed to reduce fractional dmg but ud need huge hp to do so, also fractionals and fatals are 2 separate dmg types and the only dmg type sanctuary cannot reduce are fatals
     
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    Awesome! I will keep this combo in mind for later thanks ^^
     
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    Yep I plan on starting to get guardian this lvl cap
     
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    Good to know. I plan on adding it. I'll update this once I finish lvling. I'm not maxed yet :p
     
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    1mp move, Guardian save sanctuary swift rage sword swift trigger con might be a better combo, quite a fast combo too with no interrupts depending on what opener u use
     
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    Her build is resistance based like mine so she doesnt have sanctuary
    We use protection/aegis to reduce dmg
    So initial guardian cast combo:- astute+Guardian(save)+trigger(swift)+ragesword(swift)+assault(swift)
    Short and fast combo:-holy fist+trigger(save)+ragesword(swift)+astute(swift)
    Though i usually prefer only 3skills long combos for short and fast coz they give proper chance to dodge enemy aoe
    if u are able to get the 2mp skill on sword skills u can make it with rage sword and another 1mp skill
     
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    Sanctuary would help to make it a 95% reduction as its based on the current dmg and applies after any resistance u have, plus its a fast skill when swifted and its 4mp
     
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