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Tank in Toram

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by SuperJr, Jul 26, 2017.

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Which tank you prefer/like?

  1. Sword + Shield

  2. Knuckle + Shield

  3. Staff + Shield

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  1. SuperJr

    SuperJr Active Member

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    Hi Guys,
    As far as I know there are three types of weapon choice if you want to make a tank. Sword / Knucke / Staff.
    Just wondering if they have different purpose or if you can explain what is difference between those three or pro cons of them.

    If you dont mind please vote the one you like most :)
    Terima kasih!

    EDIT:
    Sorry for misunderstanding, but what I mean is pure tank and of course all attribute needed as a pure tank such as high HP, Aggro holder, etc.
     
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  2. Tigr

    Tigr Well-Known Member

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    I don't know a whole lot but
    Well first off, dual wield can potentially tank decently, and also you can have bowgun+shield too :eek:

    Anyway in my understanding:
    1h+shield is the best aggro generating tank
    Idk anything about knuckles+shield, although I assume they would theoretically rely on dodge
    I think dual wield tank is basically knuckle tank with better skills - I think it's phantom slash specifically (but idk :/)
    I'm personally working on staff+shield. It has good damage and technically never misses, but cast time and mp charge leave it vulnerable, and it's also expensive if you want better dps because 6 elemental staffs .___.
    Bowgun+shield can deal good damage at long range, but it spamming aggro combos can hurt physical proration :/

    That's just based on my understanding/experience though so it's not very authoritative ._.
    Anyway hope it helps a little bit :D
     
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    Where's bg + shield x.x
     
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  4. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    For semi tank or pure tank?
    For pure tank staff shield all the way, some people prefer 1h shield too its good as well.

    For semi tank semi dps,
    1h shield or bg shield
    Too bad cant type long post as I am in class, pm me if you wanna know more about them.
     
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    1h tank
    some of the knight skills not usable without a sword
     
  6. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    1h&Shield is best for continuous attacking by utilizing AMPR (ASPD helps with this too). A good combo for 1h&S is Hard Hit>Astute (Consecutive)>Trigger Slash(Consecutive). This entire combo costs 1mp, interrupts your target's attacks, Raises your crit rate (meaning you wll deal more damage, and hit more often), and increases AMPR after you use it (the next skill will also have a faster animation, this skill being Hard Hit, meaning you can counter attacks faster.

    Knuckle&Shield is best for spamming. If you create a 1mp combo with Shell Break (has a chance to cause guard break, when it does, it will restore 4mp), and get quick draw, you will most likely end up with more mana after you use the combo than it costed you to use the combo. It is best to use a combo with flinch/tumble in it; you can essentially stun-lock your targets with this, rendering them helpless.
    Because this tank style spams, your attacks will propate badly, so you will deal very small amounts of damage.
    You could also choose to have a high ASPD, and use Aggravate+Strong Chase Attack, this will let you gather aggro with your auto-attacks, meaning that you can prorate, and therefore, deal more damage, but you won't be able to stun-lock as easily.

    Staff&Shield is the most balanced, becuase you can deal large amounts of damage, and tank at the same time. Using a staff&shield also allows you to play a support role, which is important to tanking, but unlike the other two tanking styles, you have very limited attack interruption (you can still use Impact for tumble), and might not be able to interrupt attacks frequently, or on time.
     
  7. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    1h shield would reign, if there would be an aggro battle. ^_^
     
  8. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    MPCharge&Staff + Provoke
    (You've been bamboozled)
     
  9. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Rocking staff tank since 2015, since the time ppl said it wasnt a tank, staff tank wins out of the 3 imo
     
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    Same af XD
     
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  11. SuperJr

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    Sorry for misunderstanding, but what I mean is pure tank and of course all attribute needed as a pure tank such as high HP, Aggro holder, etc.
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Staff tank for pure tank, and u dnt need to worry about getting agro% gears aswell
     
  13. SuperJr

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    BK, could you please explain why?
     
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    Staff tank is the tankiest kind of tank, and unlike 1h tank and knuck tank staff tanks dnt need to use any physical skills or even magic skills (apart from mp charge which is fastest with staff) staff tanks can support and with instant autos it can prorate whilst doing so (powerwave can be used too if boss likes to run) it can also triple up as a farmer mage and even dps mage when we can get 2stats max
     
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    Staff tanker have quite many interruption and stun skills..besides close range impact..
    if you're equipped with a neutral or dark element staff, with your magic javelin and magic blast skills maxed. you have lots of chance to flinch the target (gives 1 sec interruption)
    Add to it the shield bash and canon shield for stun

    Also if you have powerwave and quickdraw passive skills, there is really very limited need to do mprecharge infront of the boss.
    remember, magic ignores accuracy ;) so no miss/evasion at all!
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Event empress says hiii

    Unlike skills, auto attacks need to hit to affect proration so staff tank can not prorate via auto thats its biggest problem, I usually prorate via impact, arrows, javelin for physical party and hf, smash, shield bash for mage party.
     
  17. SuperJr

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    Thanks for the explanation
    I see some tank build in forum and they skill build is mostly not in the weapon realated trees, so thats why I was asking if there is any particular pros or cons when you choose wep for tanks (I know about drills and toy hammer).
    Also is it better if we choose MTL as second stat in terms of full tanks? or INT is rly better?
     
  18. SuperJr

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    So power wave using staff is no miss? that's new for me, thanks for your info.
    Anyway what about power wave on sword and knuckle, are they no miss too?
     
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    So what's your choice mayam? knux / staff / sword?
     
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    Autos dnt always miss tho and u can go dex as 2nd stat like what i have, but to say they cant prorate with autos is too far, ive prorated many times, and dnt say up the difficulty because every class gets weaker in 1 way or another
     

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