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The Sniper Builds Guide (Lv110 Cap)

Discussion in 'Bow Gun' started by Precaria, Dec 8, 2015.

  1. raibeepee

    raibeepee Active Member

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    good day! my friend and i are starting a healthy debate on sniper combos. i want to suggest a moeba-impact(save)-snipe(smite)-holy fist(cons)(from ur guide). he said snipe should be at 4th spot to avoid 20% damage reduction (is this even true?). any suggestions mam? or is it possible to put smoke screen before impact to make snipe be at the 4th slot. thanks! and also, how do i do the "do not trigger holy fist" part? thanks!
     
  2. Precaria

    Precaria Precariø ♂ Retired IG Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor

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    Differences
    War Bowgun (WBG): Base ATK: 44 ~ max attack range 8m
    Arched Bowgun (ABG): Base ATK: 44 ~ max attack range 8m
    Empress Bowgun (EBG): Base ATK: 58 ~ max attack range 6m
     
  3. Ianjuro

    Ianjuro R>AVALANCHE Epic Member

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    So just the atk and meters are different. Think the range would of been better for EBG
     
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  4. Precaria

    Precaria Precariø ♂ Retired IG Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor

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    Some snipers avoid the damage penalty from having Snipe right after the skill with Save effect. Save reduces the damage of the following skills. The farther the skill is from the Saved skill, the less damage penalty it suffers (hence set Snipe on the 4th/5th move).

    The reason why I don't move snipe farther is because 1. Shooting another physical skill before snipe will lower snipe damage anyways (proration). 2. Combo will last longer making you loose time of the battle.

    The Ultimate Sniper build is focused on DPS = damage per second = the faster you do more damage the better. Short combos will let you combo more throughout the fight. I don't recommend spamming the mana saver combo. Use the heavy snipe combo with 1 or 2 auto attacks between the repetitions. Then when you only have 1 or 2 mp bars left use the mana saver combo. Less shots = Higher damage. Spam shots = Lower damage. Learning to be conservative is a key to power here.

    About preventing Holy Fist and Smash from activating you just need to be 2m or farther from the target and press the attack button or any other skill button and the combo will end without that last move being activated.

    For bosses that hardly move from their spot like Yelb or immobile like DG the EBG is better. For bosses like Empress and P. Golem which love to dash around the map using A/WBG is more comfortable. The less running around the easier the dps.
     
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  5. raibeepee

    raibeepee Active Member

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    thank you!
     
  6. MazterSamzz

    MazterSamzz Well-Known Member

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    Yah Im so agree with bro @Precaria because I already try it by combining ultimate snip and use
    moeba-> Smoke Dust(save) -> paralyze shot(consec)-> Bullseye (Consec) -> Snip(Smite) -> sneak attack(consec)

    1st time I think it will do better damage than bro @Precaria build due save reduction damage(20%) and give slow, paralyze, blind

    But I'm wrong...
    Because i test new combo
    moeba-> Smoke Dust(save) -> paralyze shot(consec) -> Snip(Smite) -> sneak attack(consec)
    Snipe damage is better though (+50 smite, -40% save damage)
    And i try
    moeba-> Smoke Dust(save) -> Snip(Smite) -> sneak attack(consec)
    Dealt more damage than (+50%smite, -40% save damage) with (+50% smite, 60% save damage)

    Btw i test it on roga with my friend tank 1 skill then run, i take the 1st snipe combo...

    So i take conclusion that proation is better, and after i try impact-> snipe(smite) -> sneak attack(consec)
    Though it use 4Mp bars, it not so iritating if u got teamed up without skill spammer..
    But if u got skill spammer member, u can use
    Moeba-> impact(save) -> snipe(smite) -> sneak attack(consec)
    Lol thats better Proation :)
    Thats my story, dont repeat my fail... :)
     
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  7. clowclow

    clowclow Active Member

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    I also agree with @Precaria but you can use snipe skill 6m farther.
    EBG - Base Range: 6m
    Snipe + EBG: max 14m
    meaning, better for mana saver combos plus long range skill for stable damage.
     
  8. MazterSamzz

    MazterSamzz Well-Known Member

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    Ooh snipe skill range reduce to 14m?
    So i can aassume snipe range is base range + 8m?
     
  9. clowclow

    clowclow Active Member

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    Yup, thats right.

    once you used the skill from 20m, it will come closer and it will cast the snipe from 14m but when you attack normally it will come closer to 6m.
     
  10. MazterSamzz

    MazterSamzz Well-Known Member

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    Ok" Ty
     
  11. clowclow

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    anyway, I was making a Crit Rate Calculator, I wanna know how C999 computed from Crit Rate to Crit Percent:

    First:
    Crit Rate - 9
    Crit Rate - 9% ( 9 x .09 + 9)

    Second:
    Crit Rate - 9
    Crit Rate - 9% (9 x 0.9)

    Now which of them are correct?
     
  12. MazterSamzz

    MazterSamzz Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but Both are wrong

    Critical Chance = ((25+ (25 + A) * B) + C)%
    A = Your Personal CRT STAT / 3.5
    B = (total critical rate percent from equip) / 100
    C = total critical rate from equip + bonus from CRT UP skill + Astute bonus
    bonus from CRT UP skill: 5 if maxed.

    Let me do math tricks with my 35 crit stats, Please close your eyes if u got math allergy, and skip to very bottom calculate....

    Lets assume if we got:
    -C999 Armor and BowGun (No Xtall)
    -Warhelmet (NoXtall)

    A= 35/3.5 = 10
    B= 9%(BowGun) + 9%(Armor) = 18%
    C= 9(BowGun) + 9(Armor) + 10(Warhelmet) + 5(Crit Up) = 33
    Crit Chance = (( 25 + (25+10) * 18% ) + 33)%
    Crit Chance = (( 25 + 35 * 18% ) +33)%
    Crit Chance = (( 25 + 6.3) + 33)%
    Crit Chance = (31.3 + 33)%
    Crit Chance = 64.3%

    If u Got Warmonger Xtal +6%
    and if u got Mauez Xtall + 2%

    So if u got All Warmonger and Mauez Xtal = 64.3% +8% = 72.3%
     
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  13. han

    han Active Member

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    Hi @MazterSamzz,

    you mentioned "B = (100 + total critical rate percent from equip) / 100", so should B be calculated as B = (100 + 9 + 9) / 100 = 1 + 9%(BowGun) + 9%(Armor) = 1.18%?

    and

    "If u Got Warmonger Xtal +6% and if u got Mauez Xtall + 2%" doesnt Warmonger Xtal give crit rate +6 and Mauez Xtall adds +2 to crit rate? is there a tpo in game description?
     
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  14. MazterSamzz

    MazterSamzz Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes ur right about the B formula must be
    B = (total critical rate percent from equip)/100
    Thanks ill edit it

    And the
    Thats not like it..
    Its true Warmonger Xtal give crit rate +6 and Mauez Xtall adds +2 to crit rate...
    Because crit rate+ add % to crit (different to crit rate +%
    I mean just add 6% to calculate and 2% to calculate..
     
  15. han

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    Thanks!!
     
  16. Sin

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    Could the Ultimate Snipe also be utilized in the maze?
     
  17. Precaria

    Precaria Precariø ♂ Retired IG Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor

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    You could use it but not recommended when maze is in hardcore mode, the Survival Sniper is better for that job, but even better the Angelus Mage build, as you won't be able to proceed from some rooms (specially above F901) with 5 or 6 mobs due to all of them blocking the way. Is more practical to clear them all up using storms. All sniper builds regardless of the tankiness, are better used in single target scenarios.
     
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  18. Sin

    Sin Well-Known Member

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    I
    actually Just finished building the Angelus build capped my mage 95 got all the required equipment not the xtal's, but with me only being three weeks to almost a month in I don't have all the skill or stat points in so I'm still working on it did it take you long to acquire all the achievements?
     
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    I'm wondering which refine is better for bowgun ? i see a lot of bowgun with C999 or 4% dex and 4% atk , which one do you preconize for EBG?
     
  20. raibeepee

    raibeepee Active Member

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    would it be okay to have spiky bandana replacing war helmet in your ultimate sniper? thank you!
     

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