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[Theory Build] Magic Halberd Build

Discussion in 'Halberd' started by Little Potum, Dec 17, 2016.

  1. Little Potum

    Little Potum Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering if this would work or not. I thought of this build after watching a magic knight build (which uses tempest). Basically, you use Punishing Ray in combo with storm to convert your attack to magic power. Helberd's have terrible matck from stats using magic affectivly has to be used with Punishing Ray. Thank you I Robot and Red_Fox for information.

    Rough Combo:
    Deadly Spear > Impact (con) > Punishing Ray (swift) > Storm (smite)
    Notes: This combo is still being worked out.

    Full Str and Agi
    (Punishing Ray is built on attack stat)

    Punishing Ray Info
    Matck is based on attack stat. Does not combo with characters matck. Long cast time of 1 to 2 secs. Doesn't do well in combos.

    Halberd Lv3

    Flash Stab ~ 5
    Deadly Spear ~ 5
    Punishing Ray ~ 10
    (?) what other skills would work with is build

    Magic Lv3
    Arrows ~ 5
    Javelin ~ 5
    Lances ~ 5
    Impact ~ 7
    Wall ~ 5
    Blast ~ 5
    Storm ~ 10
    MP Charge ~ 10
    Chain Cast ~ 5
    Power Wave ~ 1 (?) for better reach

    Shot Lv3
    Shot Mastery ~ 5
    Long Range ~ 5
    Quick Draw ~ 10

    Priest Lv2
    Holy Fist ~ 1 (?)

    Survival Lv2
    Safe Rest ~ 5
    HP Boost ~ 10
    Fighters High ~ 1
    Short Rest ~ 5
    MP Boost ~ 10
    Sober Analysis ~ 1

    Questions to be answered
    Will magic up skills increase magic skills? Or would it be better to get attack up skills to increase magic attack? Str up skills are better to increase storm out put.
    Will dps be good or terrible? Full Str and Agi. Using magic outside Punishing Ray is terrible so magic is used sparingly.
    How do the halberd skills play into the overall build? Used as main attack while magic is back up.
    How does crit boost work? Is it for the magic or the next attack after magic? Crit is added to next skill after magic.
    Should a tumble skill be added?
    Should a sub weapon be added to the build?
    Is impact needed?
    Should Magic take a back seat and halberd skills be 80% of build? A 20/80 build. Yes full helberd with storm and impact in back pocket.
     
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  2. Ryushika

    Ryushika Well-Known Member

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    o_o ... I don't use a single magic ability other then MP charge on my Hal. (Which has been proven to work well) I don't really see Hal as a mage.. more like a get in there and fight with your spear, but be graceful and have a few magical tricks up your sleeve.
     
  3. Little Potum

    Little Potum Well-Known Member

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    @Eztreme Ha ha ha yeah that's why it's a theory build. Since you can techinically be a magic halberd build much like you can techically be a magic knight.
     
  4. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    Hate to break it to you, but halberds make possibly the worst mages ever, as they get only 2 MATK/point, while most other weapons get 3.this gives a 255 lower MATK. Just use a staff.
     
  5. Little Potum

    Little Potum Well-Known Member

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    @I robot Is that while using Punishing Ray as a magic attack booster?
     
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    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    No, punishing ray works based on ATK stat only.
     
  7. Little Potum

    Little Potum Well-Known Member

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    @I robot with your matck also or just your attack as the bases?
     
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    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    ATK only. also, it is useful for ranged damage as it costs 0 mp, but not very strong within combos and those sort of things
     
  9. Little Potum

    Little Potum Well-Known Member

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    @I robot aww thank you so much for sharing your info.
     
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    Red_Fox Master of the Ninja Kittens Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Halberds are not suited to use magic.
    they gain 2 matk per INT, which is less than barehanded.
    they gain 1 matk per AGI, but together with INT that adds up to 3, which is the same as all other weapons get just from INT.
    they gain 1 matk from DEX, but if you build INT-AGI-DEX you will miss STR and have no physical power.
    you cannot equip MDs to get their weapon bonus and with STR-AGI-INT you only have 3 matk, while other weapons get 4 or 5.

    Punish Ray does magic damage based on ATK, so there is no matk involved.
    the buff of Punish Ray increases the critical hit chance of the next skill.
    Storm is a magic skill, it cannot critical hit.
     
  11. Little Potum

    Little Potum Well-Known Member

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    @Red_Fox Thank you for clearifying. So basically if your using magic as a helberd you go full Str and Agi, then you punish Ray to convert your attack into matck. Using magic outside of Punishing Ray is useless for overall dps.
     
  12. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    Yup. you got all your facts straight
     
  13. Little Potum

    Little Potum Well-Known Member

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    @I robot Thank you alot of my questions where answered on how magic worked with a halberd.
     
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    Red_Fox Master of the Ninja Kittens Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    i use a 2:1 ratio of STR-AGI :p
     
  15. Little Potum

    Little Potum Well-Known Member

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    @Red_Fox Going full Str is not recommended? It's better to spilt? I heard Agi affects helberd buffs.
     
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    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    Again, just see what works for you. I'm soloing quite well with full STR, not burning as many revitas as my staff fu used to. certainly a class with a lot of potential
     
  17. Little Potum

    Little Potum Well-Known Member

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    @I robot I think this classes also has a lot of potiential. I am liking it a lot. It's enjoyable to play.
     
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  18. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    Good for you then. have fun ^^
     
  19. Ryushika

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    I personally run STR>CRIT>ACC(skill passive ONLY!) I've tested my build on many bosses that have a very high EVA rate, and I miss maybe 15-20% of the time, and I miss maybe 10% of the time if that on skills, and bare in mind, that's at only level 92 Hal. I adore my build personally.
     
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    Acc??
     

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