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Venana II tips and tricks

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by SirDex, Sep 25, 2020.

  1. SirDex

    SirDex Well-Known Member

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    I don't have any tips or tricks but thought I would create this thread for people who do have some useful info and can share some advice and knowledge on this boss.
    For me venana (I) feels so much easier than this boss, so I predict a plethora of new venena (II) complaint threads in the future xD
    What's the best way to tank this boss?
    I have been playing on some hard and nm runs and im seeing entire parties wiped out, so is there a right way to play it? Like tank lures a certain spot etc.
    Also using full ele equips feels very lack luster, are there dual ele or cd resists or anything like this on this boss.
    Any info would b appreciated.
     
  2. Kaisyl

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    That suction ailment into mana explosion... I think only DW can escape that as it is right now with their extreme amount of escape skills...
     
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    If you mean the dark hole skill, just use backstep for 2-3x and you can easily escape from that skill.
     
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    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    *doesn't have backstep*

    (0_0;...)

    Eh I'll work something out.
     
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    SirDex, thing is nena I, as you call her, is easy af to tank, but with the influx of botters/alts/leeches/trash-yt hybrids/blacksmiths its taking 3-5 min on average to finish, with half of them ded.
    On nena 2, my 2hs died 3 times before i finished this shet, so i got killed by like every AoE it launches. Assucbimbo just likes trolling us with new overpowered bosses and since a lot of bosses change their element or have 2 ele (like pillars n nena being diff ele, on nena I) i wouldnt be surprised.
    After doing mq, i didnt have ANY desire to continue studying this shet lol, just waiting for bots to rush in n xtal price dropping down to 1m like tusc, lmao.
    A bit offtopic, did anyone notice their mages MP behaving strangely when out of combat?
    Try standing near cb for 10min n see if you run out of mp like i do...
    This didnt happen before their bugged update
     
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    Get 1.......evade is not enough to survive in latest game..
     
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    I got one here, most of the players that already fought Venena II might have already noticed this, so for everyone who happened to not hit it with [Magic: Impact] or [Sonic Wave], or have not fought it yet, do not tumble it.

    "If you tumble it, venena's resistance will skyrocket that dealing damage to it is futile."
    (c)MyLastDreams

    Now if some ass accidentally/intentionally tumbled it during last phase, venena will do blue aoe at the map, something like burning aoe where if you step on it, you'll gradually lose hp and die. If this happened at last phase, something like from green phase Pyxtica where there's a lot of blue aoes at the whole map could happen.

    If you want to break parts, stun/flinch it.

    Small infos from the Sedems (smol venenas)

    The Left one (facing Venena II)
    - has laser and shark fins like Venena I's last phase and both are fractional.

    The Right one (facing venena II)
    - throws balls to the furthest (like Gopherga)

    Last phase Venena II has a big blue aoe, if you can interrupt it, please do (but not with tumble)

    Last phase Venena II also has shark fins that will curve to her right(your left). It deals frac damage.

    If you think you can survive an attack from them, it won't hurt to bring [Vaccine].

    Correct me on the flaws and I'll try to edit it with your credit, thanks!
     
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    What if backstep is used in busterblade combo, any suggestions?
     
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    You may jump in another aoe/laser beam.
     
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    I'm not kinda sure what you meant on this but if you mean you're using backstep as a combo opener for your busterblade, then here's on mine, just change it. There are also a lot of 1mp skills for opener: reflex/adlib/gsw(xD). You can't just stick on 1 combo, gotta be flexible :)
     
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    Venena2 is fire, the pillar is neutral,
    Don’t tumble on venena2 as this will make your damage drop to 4 digit.
    1 tank is not enough, as 2 pillar will spam huge aoe and laser, so if have another 2 break for both pillar would be better.

    use less combo and try play hit&run, this increase your chance of survive.

    yesterday try about 30 run, at beginning at least dead 2-3 in one run, after 20 run about 1 dead in few run. It’s actually not so hard to beat, most of the times we dead in the middle of combo or charging skill.
     
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    If bots can really farm venena 2 I would be super impressed lol, when even real players struggle against it.
     
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    If you plan on doing full breaks shes safe to tumble before last phase. Just that her resistances skyrocket during the knockdown animation.
     
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    Epoise can help you survive the suction, you can keep spamming it.
    Also learn the Evasion Skill, lv1 is enough to help you get rid of slow for the whole party.
    When your targeted by a ball AOE run towards the screen and dodge to the sides.
    Having a dedicated support or atleast reviver can actually make this fight more bearable.
     
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    I've been solo practicing this boss for an hour now aaaand boooy does it feel cheap getting rained down by balls 24/7 and getting my ass punished for not using a meaty dee pee ass.
     
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    Well, mods do exist for that
    I dunno if modders are back, but chance are there is 2 mod pt that allies with each other that farming this boss discreetly
     
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    really? so what makes our damage lower to nonsense in venena is her resistance when tumbled?
    ugh
    i thought she has really high defense, hence i switched to my physical pierce eq.
    if i knew this, i won't be using that pp. cause i lost so much advantage for pp.

    btw is venena ii physical defense is high at nightmare?
    it'll help us to consider changing to pp or regular eq.
     
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    Having at least 1 mage (finale/healer) or support on both parties will help too.
     
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    if ur a melee dps (shield-less). be a sturdy build (in my all games im always melee alive beside tank).

    but the venena all ball op if i accidentally hit (need more than 50% m.resist and 13.5k hp or cover lv.10 pet to survive to venena ball)

    i feel the dmg scalling in this boss is very unbalance compare to other raid boss (similar difficulty)
     
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    this boss needed support. but the community still toxic not accepting support in party (unless they have no other choice due to low people in area)
     
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